UZI reliability

regalgseguy

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How do the semi Uzi's compare reliability wise between the mod A/B? Also can SA UZI's handel hollowpoint ammo reliably? How do UZI's compare reliability wise to say a good 9mm pistol, Sig, Beretta ect?
 

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You could easily take any UZI and kick it around in the sand/dirt/mud and it would still fire.

Not that I would EVER DO THIS myself.
 

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I've never heard or any differences in reliability between the model A and model B. You can expect both to be excellent. Most ammo - including hollow points - should feed very well. People pay Vector extra money to have semi feed ramps installed in their SMGs because those feed ramps make the guns much more reliable.

I've got a couple of Sig and my expectation is the same for the Sig's and the UZI's - feeding problems are rare and if one happens, it's usually due to a dirty gun or a problem with the ammo.

I can throw a Beretta father than an UZI so in that regard (and only that regard) the Beretta is better.
 

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Well I'm too poor to afford an NFA weapon & my CLEO wouldn't sign anyways. (Only police have a need for such evil weapons, they are a no-no for the rest of us :mad) Anyways, I have an Uzi carbine model B & have never had any trouble with it. (FTF, FTE, etc) Never used hollowpoints though. Most of my ammo is just typical mil-surp. Lately I've been shooting Norinco 9mm "golden egg" ammo & winchester white-box.
 

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As for the feeding in the SA guns, like RoverDave said, the feed ramp installed on the SA guns was something IMI did to make the civilian market guns feed the civilian market ammo better. They aren't perfect, you could always throat and polish the feed ramp a little as I did, but they feed pretty darn well as is. Throating the feed ramp and modifying the front feed lips of your mags will help reduce a few misfeeds due to mag problems, but it isn't critical. When my gun was SA only, it very rarely had a problem, as an FA gun, the mags caused a few more problems. Karl.
 

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jt325i said:
Well I'm too poor to afford an NFA weapon & my CLEO wouldn't sign anyways. (Only police have a need for such evil weapons, they are a no-no for the rest of us :mad) Anyways, I have an Uzi carbine model B & have never had any trouble with it. (FTF, FTE, etc) Never used hollowpoints though. Most of my ammo is just typical mil-surp. Lately I've been shooting Norinco 9mm "golden egg" ammo & winchester white-box.


Ever consider doing an SBR and suppressor setup via a corp. transfer. It's a little cheaper and pretty fun really. Get to stick it to the head of the local po po's too. :evilgrin Karl.
 

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KarlPMann said:
It's a little cheaper and pretty fun really. Get to stick it to the head of the local po po's too. :evilgrin Karl.

Karl...i am shocked and stunned at this remark. The mere thought of "sticking it to the head of the local po po's" shouldnt ever enter your mind......Especially since my CLEO failed to sign off on my form 4. "The DeVille Corp." is in the works and should be a reality in a couple weeks...I dont NEED a full auto...i just WANT one.
 

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"Sticking it to the Po Po's" is exactly what should come to mind whenever you hear about some clown with a badge and an attitude that thinks he knows better than us common serfs when it comes to who should own a gun. :pissed Karl.
 

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I dont NEED a full auto...i just WANT one.

Who are you trying to fool here, seriously. You say that while I'm trying to justify the fact that I've lit off 2000 9mm rounds this week alone. Man I need to take it easy!
 

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Who are you trying to fool here, seriously. You say that while I'm trying to justify the fact that I've lit off 2000 9mm rounds this week alone. Man I need to take it easy!


Time to start saving up for that Dillon XL650. :lol Karl.

Help can be reached at Brass Rats Anonymous @ 1 (800) HEL-PMEE
 

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KarlPMann said:
Ever consider doing an SBR and suppressor setup via a corp. transfer. It's a little cheaper and pretty fun really. Get to stick it to the head of the local po po's too. :evilgrin Karl.

I've thought about it..... but for the time being decided to hold off on it. More because of jumping through hoops than the actual cost involved.
 

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jt325i said:
I've thought about it..... but for the time being decided to hold off on it. More because of jumping through hoops than the actual cost involved.

Jump through the hoops now or by the time you decide too, cost will be the issue.
 

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Jump through the hoops now or by the time you decide too, cost will be the issue.

Cost on doing your own SBR and getting a suppressor really aren't changing. The only thing I hate about doing an SBR is stamping the gun.
 

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Yeah but if you never try to sell it, nobody will notice if you don't stamp it. I know of a few people that haven't marked anything.

Technically he could just mark the top cover because it just has to be visible, there's nothing that says it has to be on the receiver.
 
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No, the top cover would not be allowed. The manufacturer must be on the receiver or barrel (info from ATF site below.)

As far as no one noticing, I really wouldn't want to take the chance.

ATF Info on marking Weapons:
Sec. 179.102 How must firearms be identified?

(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:

(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwiseconspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured on and after [insert effective date of final rule], the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .005 inch and in a print size no smaller than 3/32 inch; and

(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured on and after [Insert effective date of final rule], the engraving , casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .005 inch. The additional information includes:

(i) The model, if such designation has been made;

(ii) The caliber or gauge;

(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;

(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and

(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business.

(b) The Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.

(c) In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter application you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or impracticable.

(d) A firearm frame or receiver that is not a component part of a complete weapon at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(e)(1) Any part defined as a machine gun, muffler, or silencer for the purposes of this part that is not a component part of a complete firearm at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(2) The Director may authorize other means of identification of parts defined as machine guns other than frames or receivers and parts defined as mufflers or silencers upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.

Signed: April 12, 1999
 

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I have an Uzi pistol in 45 ACP with a 9mm conversion unit. I have about 2,500 rounds through the 9mm and about 400 rounds through the .45 ACP with not a single burp from either caliber setup.

I have a preban Model B with about 1,500 rounds of 9mm through it with not a single problem whatsoever. I have polished the feedramps in both guns (like a really needed to anyway) but I think it may not have really been necessary but makes me feel better nonetheless and was a fun little project.:D :cool :D
 

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If a firearm is already stamped with the manufacturer, etc. , why does it need stamped again if it would be turned into a SBR?
 

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If you are doing a Form #1...

cooey82...

YOU will be *making* the SBR!

All you need to add is your initials... & those of your City & State to complete the requirement for marking the weapon.
 
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