Uzi pistol help?

timmyjimmy5150

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Hey guys....
I have a few questions.
I was considering purchasing a Uzi pistol.
My knowledge of Uzi's is pretty low so please pardon any "stupid"
references.

From what I know.... There appears to be 2 models of pistol:
The .45 cal and the 9mm.

Are there different frame sizes for this pistol or are you just limited to one .45 model and one 9mm model? i didn't know if they made different variations of each --- Like 3 sizes of .45 (a small model; medium size pistol model and a large size model)..
Some handguns are offered this way.

What are your opinions/ comments about these Uzi pistols? Do you like the 9mm or .45 better in this pistol? Let me know...

Thanks
tim
 

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Tim, you came to the right place for asking questions like this. We're glad to help. There is just one "size" Uzi pistol. The receiver is the same for the 9mm and the 45. I'm pretty sure that the original pistol was made in both calibers and the receiver is stamped on the side with that original caliber, but either one can be converted to the other just by buying a caliber conversion kit consisting of a barrel, the bolt and a magazine.

The Uzi pistol is fun to shoot and even though I love 45 caliber guns, I think I prefer the Uzi Pistol in 9mm. it's cheaper to shoot and mags are much cheaper.
 

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My UZI pistol is a 9mm but I also have the .45 conv. which is what I usually shoot the most. It doesn't like Wolf .45 ammo, lots of FTE's!! It does like Rem. & Win. ammo.
Like RoverDave said, .45 mags are not cheap compared to the 9mm mags. But they are a blast to shoot!!

RoverDave, those pics you posted comparing the 2 UZI's are fantastic!!!
 

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ColtShorty said:
RoverDave, those pics you posted comparing the 2 UZI's are fantastic!!!

Thanks. I'm glad to hear there's another Uzi Pistol fan among us.

During the winter I shoot with a bullseye club at an indoor range. It's the ultra anal bullseye procedure: "You may now pick up your gun, you may now load 5 rounds, Is the line ready? Ready on the right, ready on the left, ready on the firing line..." And everyone is shooting their fancy target guns. I was thinking one of these days I should show up with the Uzi pistol just to liven things up a bit!
 

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timmyjimmy, welcome to the forum. As RoverDave said earlier you have come to the right place for advice, instruction, endless suggestions and a whole lot of fun from people with the same interests. The longer you are here the more you will learn there are lota of different ways to have fun in this sport. First of all there is one thing I really want to stress and that is: Please don't hesitate to ask questions. Questions are one of the foundational building blocks of learning. The ONLY bad question is the one you DON'T ask. We here at UZITalk enjoy answering each others questions because as we read each others responses we learn all along the way.

I have owned an UZI Pistol in .45 acp w/ 9mm conversion unit, numerous magazines, barrels and accessories since 1991. I love it. I carry it in a vertical draw shoulder rig and it is great !! When you get used to the bulk and weight it is very manageable and VERY accurate. Don't believe anybody who says the UZI is a point and shoot and hope you hit the target kind of gun. I am proud to own it, shoot it and talk about it. Keep reading and welcome. I hope you are an active participant and enjoy the forum as much as I do.

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JIMBO, I second your comment about the accuracy of the Uzi Pistol. I was very surprised by mine!

You said you have a 45 Uzi Pistol. Can you confirm for me that the receiver is actually stamped 45? I assume it is but haven't looked at one myself. Better yet, send me a photo of the receiver stamping and I'll add it to the Uzi Pistol photo reference thread.
 

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I also have an Uzi pistol in both calibers. It is fun to shoot and awesome to look at, however, I can't do a decent sized group with it. I'm sure the problem is me, and not the Uzi.

JIMBO and RoverDave....Do you guys have any specific tips on how to make a tighter group? I'm fine with the usual array of pistols, but seem to have trouble with the Uzi. Thanks in advance.

az paul
 

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az paul, here are a couple of suggestions that may help you attain tighter groups with your UZI Pistol:

1. If your shots are all over the paper and grouping no where near the point of aim, this pistol just may be too heavy for the type of hold you are using. You really didn't give me much info about your personal shooting style and specifics but with a gun of this size you must have a strong stance to support the weapon. Some shooters flinch and try to "help" the bullet down range, I find the UZI's weight actually lessens felt recoil !!

2. You mentioned that you have no problem with more conventional hand held pistols/revolvers. This in and of itself tells me that it may be a weight/size issue. My UZI Pistol has common everyday 3/dot sites just like the majority of weapons in use have so I don't believe it is an issue to do with the sites.

3. Do you seem to shoot better when it is set up with 9mm rather than when it is set up for .45acp ? IOW, does the lighter caliber make any difference at all in the accuracy of your shooting ? Have you tried shooting 9mm with a partial magazine to minimize weight ?

4. Have you tried shooting close targets such as 5-7 yrds ? Consider shooting alone a time or two or more to limit distractions while you are trying these new things. Shooting with buddies and or family is great but sometimes it becomes a big lead burning session rather than seriously ironing out some wrinkles in your technique. If you can concentrate in a crowd, go for it, by all means. Consider the importance of hand positioning on the weapon, strong hand firmly over the grip safety, trigger finger outside the trigger guard, pointing forward, 3 fingers around front of grip. DO NOT STRANGLE THE GRIP. Weak hand fingers locked ontop of strong hand fingers, thumb forward or locked on other thumb if preferred.

5. As I alluded to in #1 you must have an good rigid body and arm structure to hold a weapon of the UZI Pistols weight yet not so rigid that it makes you shake or flinch. If you prefer the Weaver two hand stance, take a few moments to go over each feature in the stance and make any adjustments you think may be necessary to improve your overall accuracy with the weight of the UZI. Foot placement, knees bent, weight distribution on your feet. You see, on paper, the UZI Pistol is like any other pistol in the world. Pick it up and everything changes. It may be necessary to find a work-out routine that strengthens your upper body until you are comfortable and capable of tight groups. These are all suggestions, some of which may help and others that may not.

6. Make sure you are using ammo that you know groups well. Don't try to shoot the 10 ring with UNproven ammo (cheap reloads). I am sure you have a shooting buddy who is consistantly accurate with all his or her weapons...can you think of one? Have them shoot a magazine of 9mm and a mag of 45acp and see how they do. This act would be fun for them and you, (Everybody likes to be able to say they have shot an UZI) but it's main purpose is to check the accuracy and functioning of your pistol, HECK, take a picture of them shooting it, they will want to pin it on the wall of their cubicle at work ! If your pistol is deffective, we want to know ASAP before all your hair is pulled out.

Well there we go...just a few things to consider. I can think of a number of other things to try but we will save those for next time, IF there is a next time. Happy shooting and please let us know how things are coming along with your next shooting sessions. We are happy to help anytime, just ask. Best Regards, JIMBO:D
 

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There's not much I can add to what JIMBO said. I think the grip safety does lend itself to gripping too tightly. Watch out for that. One other thing to do is shoot the gun off of sand bags so you can really see how accurate the gun & ammo are. If you get good accuracy that way, you'll have better confidence in the gun and can then focus on the things JIMBO listed.
 

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RoverDave-

Good point ! One of the main ways of getting better quality groups is to support or brace yourself in a better way. Sand bags, range bag, just about anything to support the weight of the weapon then you can work on bracing or steadying the pistol from unnecessary movement prior to each shot.

az paul-

One more thing, don't forget to use proper breathing techniques prior to pulling the trigger. Take aim, breathe in a breath, hold it, pull the trigger, don't squeeze your hand. Make a mental note to pull the trigger as straight rearward as possible. Believe me when I say that trigger technique is a study in and of itself. The affect the right (strong) hand has on where the bullet goes is HUGE when shooting a pistol. If your right hand "pulls" or "pushes" or "squeezes" or "twists" your shot will end up either high, low, left or right. Many seperate functions happen at the same time from the moment you see your front site take the 6:00 (o'clock) hold to the time you pull the trigger. Practice, practice, practice. Good luck and best regards.:uzi:
 

az paul

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JIMBO & RoverDave...Thanks VERY much for your words of wisdom. From that information, I can immediately see where my problems may lie. I'll try the sandbag approach and also compare the 9mm and .45 accuracy results for openers. If they check out OK, I'll address the grip situation, which I believe may be my problem. The pistol has the original sights on it.

I'll let you know how things progress. Thanks again.

az paul
 

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az paul, as I recall the one I owned had a very heavy trigger pull, is yours the same? If so, this may be a factor also.
 

az paul

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Kanewtervalve...Good point. That may have a lot to do with the problem. Thanks.

az paul
 
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