Vector welded a ring on around the winding release button. The ring prevents inadvertent winding spring release (and spewing ammo all over). C & S drum mags did not have that feature.I have three of the metal 72 round drums. Can't remember if they are Vector or C&S. They worked in practice but jammed in match. I have not had time to mess with them and see if spring tension or graphite will solve the problem. That is a project I will get to when I have more time. However, in the meantime, I would not recommend them to anyone. I have never tried a Beta mag
Now that's what I'm talking about. I need one of those. ThanksI had a vector drum many years ago. It ran OK but I did have issues. I’ve been using for the last 15 years two IMI 32 round magazines, welded together and the springs welded together. And all the years I had it I never had a failure with it. it’s definitely a range toy just for mag dumps, but boy it’s fun. I loaded to 60 rounds.
That's the information that I needed. Thanks for sharing that website. There was a vector one on GB but they wanted 675 and like I said I have not had any luck with drum. So I passedI documented the difference between the Vector and C&S drums a long time ago and it is on my website: https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=498
As mentioned on my site, my Vector drum was never as reliable as my C&S.
All that said, I rarely ever use it as I really like using my extended mag release for fast mag changes and the drums interfere with them.
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I mentioned on my site how the C&S drum would keep up with the faster cyclic rate of my Mini UZI and I think that was in closed bolt which I've clocked over 1500 RPM. This is where a drum really shines at that high of a cyclic rate having double the capacity really helps when you also have more than double the typical cyclic rate. However, I really don't like cyclic rates that high either. More of an occasional novelty.
I need to get off my butt and do that!! Thanks for giving me another item for my to do list!I had a vector drum many years ago. It ran OK but I did have issues. I’ve been using for the last 15 years two IMI 32 round magazines, welded together and the springs welded together. And all the years I had it I never had a failure with it. it’s definitely a range toy just for mag dumps, but boy it’s fun. I loaded to 60 rounds.
You’re welcome. I bought that off. Someone who was making them. He went by the name of bustoff. I don’t know if any of you guys remember him.I need to get off my butt and do that!! Thanks for giving me another item for my to do list!
Yeah, I even met 'bustoff' once at "The Pit" when he still lived here in MI, and "The Pit" was an "Open Range". He and attorney Kerry Morgan were very influential in getting MI opened up to allowing silencers, SBRs, and all registered, not just C&R, machine guns allowed to private citizens in MI.You’re welcome. I bought that off. Someone who was making them. He went by the name of bustoff. I don’t know if any of you guys remember him.
Yes, I remember 'bustoff' was selling them back in the subguns.com days.You’re welcome. I bought that off. Someone who was making them. He went by the name of bustoff. I don’t know if any of you guys remember him.
Yep that’s where I bought it. It’s really well made you see a lot of 40 and 50 rounders on GunBroker that are junk. He took the time to even weld the two springs together like I said it’s been running like a top for years now I took it apart one time just to wipe the inside and put the springs back if you can start making them I’m sure you will have a lot of customers me being one of them.Yes, I remember 'bustoff' was selling them back in the subguns.com days.
Yeah, I'm going to try making some. I also have two 50 round GG mag that I got from Craig Wheatley I bought back in the day. It has always run 100%. I took one apart and looked at how he did the springs and he crimped them together instead of welding.Yep that’s where I bought it. It’s really well made you see a lot of 40 and 50 rounders on GunBroker that are junk. He took the time to even weld the two springs together like I said it’s been running like a top for years now I took it apart one time just to wipe the inside and put the springs back if you can start making them I’m sure you will have a lot of customers me being one of them.
We did meet some great people along the way.Yeah, I even met 'bustoff' once at "The Pit" when he still lived here in MI, and "The Pit" was an "Open Range". He and attorney Kerry Morgan were very influential in getting MI opened up to allowing silencers, SBRs, and all registered, not just C&R, machine guns allowed to private citizens in MI.
I've never cared for monopod mags. I've got a couple 40 round (conversions of some sort) Uzi mags that IIRC I shot once to make sure that they worked and haven't shot since then. I've also got a USA brand 50 round Uzi mag that has metal so soft the lips have to be reshaped each time it's shot, so I haven't shot that in many years.
MHO, YMMV, etc.