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I always wanted a Machkfalaklage. Nice.
I don’t have the drum on it now, but don’t forget Suomi. And the tube in front was copied from a 1919.
The member who did one similar to this years ago used a 1919 barrel sleeve, or front thing that folds up…, what ever you call it.
 

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So I have this mint M11 RPB and I'd like to put the wire stock on it as M11 FA. Am I able to install one with SBR registration? Thanks
 

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So I have this mint M11 RPB and I'd like to put the wire stock on it as M11 FA. Am I able to install one with SBR registration? Thanks

Yes , register it as an SBR and then you can install a wire stock…you will have to cut open the rear end for the stock struts and install a stock block/locking hardware inside the rear of the frame to adapt the wire stock, I’d also suggest some hydrogen peroxide and a box of bandaids
 

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I think the tray welded into the frame that the semi-open bolt’s fire control group sits in will block the cobray wire stock from fully collapsing into the receiver.

You will probably have to settle for a mini-Uzi style stock from Practical Solutions after you SBR it.
 

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I think the tray welded into the frame that the semi-open bolt’s fire control group sits in will block the cobray wire stock from fully collapsing into the receiver.

You will probably have to settle for a mini-Uzi style stock from Practical Solutions after you SBR it.
Yes it does. You have to cut the legs slightly shorter. I have an early RPB carbine and it came from the factory with a collapsible wire stock (the flat butt type), but the legs on it are about 1inch shorter so that it can close all the way into the frame.

I have a couple of standard style M10 wire stocks that were made by CMP (I believe) circa 82-83 and they have shorter legs to accomodate the open bolt semi carriage.

North Georgia armament advertised them in shotgun news along with a stock block that had tapped holes in it that allowed the block to be installed semi permanently in the open bolt semi without having to weld, so it could be removed if need be.

There was an M10 SAP on GB recently that had been modified to accept a buttstock, but it was not registered as an SBR, so the stock was included in the lot but not installed, it had the shorter legs.

So it can work, but the M10 stock is already a bit short as it is, so taking a little length off the legs can render it useless for some people that have longer arms.
 
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I appreciate all of the feedback. Being that the stock would be shorter and even less useful than factory setup, perhaps I'll keep holding onto the suppressor. That and the condition it's in is kind of sacrilegious to cut it open.
Visibly, you can see the openings where the stock was going, before RPB welded to reduce the opportunity to add one back. The mount location for the stock catch remains with the necessary holes, but I did not know the fire control gear block was designed to be in the way, so that is a deal killer right there.
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I appreciate all of the feedback. Being that the stock would be shorter and even less useful than factory setup, perhaps I'll keep holding onto the suppressor. That and the condition it's in is kind of sacrilegious to cut it open.
Visibly, you can see the openings where the stock was going, before RPB welded to reduce the opportunity to add one back. The mount location for the stock catch remains with the necessary holes, but I did not know the fire control gear block was designed to be in the way, so that is a deal killer right there.
Thank God for Nomex
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It’s not designed to be in the way, it just ended up that way.. as for cutting the rear end open, if you do it properly it looks exactly the same as a MAC machine gun. You have to basically score the back plate about a half inch or so up from the bottom of the gun and snap it off. The SMG version of the gun has a backplate that doesn’t reach all the way down to the bottom of the receiver, it falls about a half inch short, leaving the holes for the stock struts exposed. I’ve seen some guys cut the slots into the rear plate but it looks odd to me, not as aesthetically pleasing as the SMG with the shorter back plate.

There are lots of options for stocks that don’t require you to open up the rear of the gun. Check out some of the retailers like practical solutions and USMG, they sell MAC stock options like side folders etc. there is also the fixed wooden buttstocks designed for the SMG, these would require you to cut the rear open for the wire stock legs but you wouldn’t have issues with stock length as the wooden stock doesn’t collapse, it just installs the same way as the SMG wire folders but the legs are only about 2 inches long and the sear carriage does not interfere with them.
 

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It’s not designed to be in the way, it just ended up that way.. as for cutting the rear end open, if you do it properly it looks exactly the same as a MAC machine gun. You have to basically score the back plate about a half inch or so up from the bottom of the gun and snap it off. The SMG version of the gun has a backplate that doesn’t reach all the way down to the bottom of the receiver, it falls about a half inch short, leaving the holes for the stock struts exposed. I’ve seen some guys cut the slots into the rear plate but it looks odd to me, not as aesthetically pleasing as the SMG with the shorter back plate.

There are lots of options for stocks that don’t require you to open up the rear of the gun. Check out some of the retailers like practical solutions and USMG, they sell MAC stock options like side folders etc. there is also the fixed wooden buttstocks designed for the SMG, these would require you to cut the rear open for the wire stock legs but you wouldn’t have issues with stock length as the wooden stock doesn’t collapse, it just installs the same way as the SMG wire folders but the legs are only about 2 inches long and the sear carriage does not interfere with them.
Thank you very much for the wisdom! If you've seen the RPBs, there is a small length of the original slot still there, but as you wrote, that would need to be lengthened for a factory stock.
My idea is to keep the receiver as it was originally stamped before RPB got to them. I suppose there's no way to machine the channels around the SC block to allow the full travel of the wire stock. I don't have much need for the stock really but to bring it back to OEM.
Of the two RPBs I currently own, the 380 doesn't require any "help" to control it when there is practically zero recoil. The 10/9 is a different story!
Thanks again Mitch
 
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Thank you very much for the wisdom! If you've seen the RPBs, there is a small length of the original slot still there, but as you wrote, that would need to be lengthened for a factory stock.
My idea is to keep the receiver as it was originally stamped before RPB got to them. I suppose there's no way to machine the channels around the SC block to allow the full travel of the wire stock. I don't have much need for the stock really but to bring it back to OEM.
Of the two RPBs I currently own, the 380 doesn't require any "help" to control it when there is practically zero recoil. The 10/9 is a different story!
Thanks again Mitch
It would be difficult to mill channels around the sear block without removing it entirely and that’s not really a feasible option.

coincidentally, I got in an M10 stock today that has been modified for use in an open bolt semi with shorter legs and new slots milled into the front end of the legs for the locking hardware. Just figured I’d show what it looks like in its modified state, very short indeed.

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It would be difficult to mill channels around the sear block without removing it entirely and that’s not really a feasible option.

coincidentally, I got in an M10 stock today that has been modified for use in an open bolt semi with shorter legs and new slots milled into the front end of the legs for the locking hardware. Just figured I’d show what it looks like in its modified state, very short indeed.

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In your opinion, would it be useful at all? I love the original FA look and it might be worth it by that alone, but how in heck would you shoulder that? Lol.
I would need to carefully elongate the slots in the rear or the receiver, and simply install the locking hardware, add the crosspin, and that's about it?
 

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In your opinion, would it be useful at all? I love the original FA look and it might be worth it by that alone, but how in heck would you shoulder that? Lol.
I would need to carefully elongate the slots in the rear or the receiver, and simply install the locking hardware, add the crosspin, and that's about it?
I assume youve never shouldered the full length full auto stock either because even that is almkst not shoulderable LOL

This short i would say is probably good for pictures and throwing under your shoulder for hip firing like scarface ?
 

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In your opinion, would it be useful at all? I love the original FA look and it might be worth it by that alone, but how in heck would you shoulder that? Lol.
I would need to carefully elongate the slots in the rear or the receiver, and simply install the locking hardware, add the crosspin, and that's about it?
You can shoulder it. Just have to bend the elbow a little more, it’s not totally useless, it’s akin to an “entry length” stock.
 

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