South African R series of weapons information thread (lots of pictures)
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Just thought you guys may enjoy some pics of my original South African R4/5 bayonet. I'm only aware of two others in civilian hands. It is believed that a 1000 of these were made and 900 accepted, but thus far nobody knows where they are apart from a handful believed to be owned by collectors.
Mine has both a serial number on the bayonet as well as the release catch, the latter being either 07 or 071, with the last digit possibly partially stamped. It looks to be in good condition with only minor use, perhaps parade use?
Mine has both a serial number on the bayonet as well as the release catch, the latter being either 07 or 071, with the last digit possibly partially stamped. It looks to be in good condition with only minor use, perhaps parade use?
lcastillo
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WCC, You must be proud at this time to own such a hard to find item as a R4 bayonet! Did the seller know what he had when he sold it to you? Besides for money why would a collector sell such a scarce bayonet. The only other bayonet I have seen had the bayonet release latch in a stainless or white metal. Your release latch is in black which is the first time I have seen in this variation. Does your bayonet have the spacer sleeve (made of light gauge metal) for the flash hider that mounted inside of the bayonets tube handle? Thank you for sharing pictures of your bayonet with us.
Ady
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Ady
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Carrying on with the gas tube discussion. I came across a thread on a South African forum and asked the original poster (Peter) if i could post his picture of the gas tube on his LM on this forum.
You will see the gas tube doesn't have the enlarged ring, but is a straight cut gas tube with a difference. There appears to be a nipple type protrusion on the gas tube where the enlarged ring would be, this will stop the lever on the front handguard holder assembly from disengaging.
You will see the gas tube doesn't have the enlarged ring, but is a straight cut gas tube with a difference. There appears to be a nipple type protrusion on the gas tube where the enlarged ring would be, this will stop the lever on the front handguard holder assembly from disengaging.
Carrying on with the gas tube discussion. I came across a thread on a South African forum and asked the original poster (Peter) if i could post his picture of the gas tube on his LM on this forum.
You will see the gas tube doesn't have the enlarged ring, but is a straight cut gas tube with a difference. There appears to be a nipple type protrusion on the gas tube where the enlarged ring would be, this will stop the lever on the front handguard holder assembly from disengaging.
Ady it seems like your pic is not working and not showing.
Ady
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Looks like the pic is back. Can anyone else not view the pic?
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lcastillo
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Machinegun Messiah, The R6 tube was a original that I found in South Africa. The machinist knocked me on my ass when he told me that to modify the gas tube with the flare would take 2 hours @ $100 per hour to do it. It was not worth it to me. Shortly after that I sold my R6 parts kit because in Iowa you can not get a SBR. So as my luck goes after I sold the R6 parts kit the real R6 gas tube was offered to me for sale. It took me 4 1/2 years to find it. Such is life!
Machinegun Messiah
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Wow! That is often the way it goes, lol
. . . I always felt that to accomplish that R6 lip-flange, it would be possible to do a thick weld line around the circumference and then machine that weld down to R4/R6 lip-flange dimensions. Maybe I'm wrong? But it sounds good.
. . . Any way, congrats on the find. Nice!!
. . . I always felt that to accomplish that R6 lip-flange, it would be possible to do a thick weld line around the circumference and then machine that weld down to R4/R6 lip-flange dimensions. Maybe I'm wrong? But it sounds good.
. . . Any way, congrats on the find. Nice!!
lcastillo
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Cheers, AspektZA did you get the R5 gas tubes direct from Nobleteq like that? Do you know if they did the correct R4 and R6 gas tubes with additional supply? Thanks LouHave gotten wind that Nobelteq has recently restocked on parts.
Hoping to get my R5 tube and handguard retainer in a few weeks.
New production tube on left, old stock on right:
Lou,
They were purchased on my behalf by a relative from Nobelteq.
Didn't ask after R4/6 tubes, but the safe assumption is 'no'. I can see what I can dig up, but it's unlikely.
Denel did a <500 run of R5 tubes to last them until 2020, when a new rifle will be selected. Probably.
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