SBR Question?

Colt

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I am wanting to SBR my Model A IMI AA import. I understand the paperwork that needs to be filled out. However, I am unclear on something and would like your guys opinions and experience...

I have read the requirements for engraving and would prefer to engrave the barrel. I believe through my reading this is approved. Can I have spare short barrels with the same numbers and info so that all I have to do is swap them out? Or, may I only have one at any given time? For clarification I only have one UZI so, I wouldn't be worried about the intent to manufacture more non-registered NFA items. This is my first NFA weapon and certainly do not want to mess up.
 

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Each barrel less than 16" would need to be engraved, otherwise when you install one you'll have a SBR without the manufacturer's markings.
 

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Thanks, Richard. Would you need to engrave each barrel or just the one that matches the Form 1 (or 4)?

I asked Tech Branch the same question. They told me legally you had to mark all the barrels but as long as you had the SBR barrel on the paperwork marked and always had it with the gun you were fine.
 

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I asked Tech Branch the same question. They told me legally you had to mark all the barrels but as long as you had the SBR barrel on the paperwork marked and always had it with the gun you were fine.

Thanks. That actually seems logical... go figure. Probably safer to engrave them all or just the receiver though.
 

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Why not just mark the receiver, than you can put on any barrel you want?
Here's the way I see it... A SBR or SBS is a combination of parts. An unbarreled receiver can't be a SBS or SBR on it's own. Unlike a registered machine gun receiver, it's the combination of parts that give one of these guns it's NFA classification.

Engraving an original IMI receiver with your name, trust name, corp. name etc. drops the value. I don't know how many different calibers or barrel lengths you'd ever use for a SBR Uzi, but the barrel is the cheap part, and I'm guessing most SBR owners have a single barrel shorter than 16".

If you subscribe to the notion that we're only temporary custodians of these firearms, then engraving your information on an inexpensive and easily replaceable barrel makes sense. Barrel engraving isn't practical on many firearms, but the Uzi seems to lend itself nicely to this location.

*My comments are in regards to an original IMI Uzi that we're not likely to ever see imported again. Engrave all the Vectors and home built weldups anywhere you like.
 

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This was exactly my main concern my Uzi is a IMI action arms imported model A. I would never sell the weapon as it was a gift from my late father. However I wouldn't want to damage the value by marking it in any way.
 

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Cool, that makes sense. Given that I'm working with a $250 gun, I wasn't concerned about the future value. Not to mention the fact that the barrel will not be visible :)
 

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I am wanting to SBR my Model A IMI AA import. I understand the paperwork that needs to be filled out. However, I am unclear on something and would like your guys opinions and experience...

I have read the requirements for engraving and would prefer to engrave the barrel. I believe through my reading this is approved. Can I have spare short barrels with the same numbers and info so that all I have to do is swap them out? Or, may I only have one at any given time? For clarification I only have one UZI so, I wouldn't be worried about the intent to manufacture more non-registered NFA items. This is my first NFA weapon and certainly do not want to mess up.

The only engraving you would need to put on the barrel is your name, city and state. You do not have to duplicate the serial number that is already on the receiver.


Title 27: Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

§ 479.102 How must firearms be identified?

(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:

(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch; and

(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:

(i) The model, if such designation has been made;

(ii) The caliber or gauge;

(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;

(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and

(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.

(b) The depth of all markings required by this section will be measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges. The height of serial numbers required by paragraph (a)(1) of this section will be measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of the character impression bottoms (bases).

(c) The Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.

(d) In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or impracticable.

(e) A firearm frame or receiver that is not a component part of a complete weapon at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(f)(1) Any part defined as a machine gun, muffler, or silencer for the purposes of this part that is not a component part of a complete firearm at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(2) The Director may authorize other means of identification of parts defined as machine guns other than frames or receivers and parts defined as mufflers or silencers upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.
 

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I've seen people put their engraving on the underside of the receiver behind the grip where the stock folds up.

I wonder if it would be legal to use a quick-detach wood stock with the engraving there? It would get covered, but at the same time the stock is just a button press away from being removed to see the engraving.
 
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