Pre ban Norinco 320.

[KarlPMann]

Another pre-ban Norinco. :lol :roflmao For the buyer that has it all, you too can own this one of a kind weapon for a mere $895.00. :lol Buyer beware. Karl.

And just a few spots down on the same page is one for $595.00, but he isn't claiming that ever popular "pre-ban status".

 

[montana_jeepn]

Karl,

I saw some similar pricing at the last gun show I was at. They were asking preban IMI prices for a postban (wooden thumbstock, etc) Norinco. I found it pretty amusing and just kept walking.

 

[KarlPMann]

It can be a little hard to convince some of these people that there is no such thing as a "pre-ban" Norinco. I laugh every time I go into a gunshow and see 3 - 4 of them. What's worse, I've seen local ATF agents at the shows up in Denver taking notes. :rolleyes I do my best to warn people, but it's up to them to listen. Karl.

 

[jt325i]

Well pretty soon the ban will be over & a lot of ATF agents will have to find something else to do. I think it'll be a miracle if it actually goes away.......

 

[Paul556]

Problem there is lots of people think that, but even if the '94 ban goes away you can't just slap a folding stock on a Norinco 320 and be in the clear. You still have to buy the US made parts to get the imported parts count down to 10 to stay legal. Just an FYI to help us all stay on the up and up.

 

[jt325i]

Problem there is lots of people think that, but even if the '94 ban goes away you can't just slap a folding stock on a Norinco 320 and be in the clear. You still have to buy the US made parts to get the imported parts count down to 10 to stay legal. Just an FYI to help us all stay on the up and up.

Well that's not an issue if the original stock was an imported part. Changing from a fixed to a folding will not change your parts count. The restriction is no more than 10 imported parts. In reality, many parts are unmarked. I doubt the "parts police" will ever be able to tell their origin, foreign or domestic.

 

[kanewtervalve]

"What a tangled web they weave" I have no doubt the sunset will indeed happen, my worry lies in that with the new "homeland security" the BATFE will have more power to weild than the Gestapo in the 1930s. Lawyers will have a field day.

 

[jt325i]

"What a tangled web they weave" I have no doubt the sunset will indeed happen, my worry lies in that with the new "homeland security" the BATFE will have more power to weild than the Gestapo in the 1930s. Lawyers will have a field day.

The sad thing is many people are so quick to write-off their 2nd amendment rights. I too wonder if eventually firearms will be clamped down on in the name of homeland security? As the increasing amount of under-educated liberals come to vote I see us being outnumbered at the polls someday in the future......

 

[Paul556]

Well that's not an issue if the original stock was an imported part. Changing from a fixed to a folding will not change your parts count. The restriction is no more than 10 imported parts. In reality, many parts are unmarked. I doubt the "parts police" will ever be able to tell their origin, foreign or domestic.

The problem is that a Norinco 320 comes with zero US made parts. It came with a thumbhole stock in '93 and '94 before the '94 ban. If you are brazen enough to put a folding stock on with no US parts you might as well do now without the AW ban sunseting. Both acts are felonies as stupid as we all know that it is. But, it is still illegal. The '89 ban will not expire. It must be reversed by an act of congress, or deemed unconstitutional (as it should) by the courts. Whether or not you get caught is irrelevant. Careful what you tell people to do in a public forum. You are on slippery ground legally.

Edited cause I can't spell and type at the same time.

 

[jt325i]

The problem is that a Norinco 320 comes with zero US made parts. It came with a thumbhole stock in '93 and '94 before the '94 ban. If you are brazen enough to put a folding stock on with no US parts you might as well do now without the AW ban sunseting. Both acts are felonies as stupid as we all know that it is. But, it is still illegal. The '89 ban will not expire. It must be reversed by an act of congress, or deemed unconstitutional (as it should) by the courts. Whether or not you get caught is irrelevant. Careful what you tell people to do in a public forum. You are on slippery ground legally.

Edited cause I can't spell and type at the same time.

Well I'm aware the Norinco out of the box has no us parts but that shouldn't be a problem considering there are other sources for US Uzi parts. Didn't mean to come across implying it is not necessary to have parts count in order. . That said, the limitation is 10 IMPORTED parts. You simply cannot exceed this amount. If someone chooses to violate the law I am in no way liable for it. All that said, I am not aware of a single individual who has been prosecuted ONLY for a parts count violation. It's basically an unenforceable law & at best could only be used as an add-on charge to another crime. Even then it would be necessary to prove the origin for individual parts. If you have found a pertinent case, please provide details. I neither support the law, nor do I condone violating it. My 2 cents.

BTW: This law in no way affects me. My IMI Uzi pre-dates the '89 import ban.

 

[kanewtervalve]

Well I'm aware the Norinco out of the box has no us parts but that shouldn't be a problem considering there are other sources for US Uzi parts. Didn't mean to come across implying it is not necessary to have parts count in order. . That said, the limitation is 10 IMPORTED parts. You simply cannot exceed this amount. If someone chooses to violate the law I am in no way liable for it. All that said, I am not aware of a single individual who has been prosecuted ONLY for a parts count violation. It's basically an unenforceable law & at best could only be used as an add-on charge to another crime. Even then it would be necessary to prove the origin for individual parts. If you have found a pertinent case, please provide details. I neither support the law, nor do I condone violating it. My 2 cents.

BTW: This law in no way affects me. My IMI Uzi pre-dates the '89 import ban.

You make a very good point, I remember my first FAL build, I bought a TAPCO US gas piston and it was in no way marked at all, just like the original, I keep the receipt just in case, but just having the receipt does not prove the piston in my rifle is the same I purchased from TAPCO, you can get a headache just thinking about it.