not looking to blaspheme here

[vincent63]

how would you go? would i be doing myself a dis-service by going with an uzi semi carbine/fullsize versus an ar 9mm conversion?the uzi has alot of coolness factor working for it,but does the ar chambered in 9mm have it beat for reliability.or will the uzi beat the ar for reliability?im looking for a carbine i can mount a red dot scope on,have it be a 16 inch barrel,get a decent cheek weld on,be reliable, digest wwb 115 gr fmjs all day long without hiccuping,,,i leave it to the jury...
i realize im leaving myself wide open to be shredded here,and please dont misunderstand me im not disrespecting the semi uzi,ive shot a full auto and loved it,the uzi just feels very sexy,but as a first 9mm carbine toy,putting your prejudices aside,which is the better semi firearm?

 

[grassyknoll]

I dont currently own either in Semi only at the present, but have had both in the past. My preference is with the Uzi carbine. For a good cheek weld you could get a solid stock for it in stylish wood or plastic either way. I feel more at home with the utter simplicity of the uzi design, and its basic feel. My IMI uzi model B (which has a registered bolt in it now), never malfuctioned a single time in over 9 years of shooting before doing the FA conversion bolt deal.

 

[chrisp929]

i dont own an ar15 in 9mm but i can tell you for sure .. the uzi by far is more reliable than an ar15 in 9mm will ever be .. remember the ar was designed originally for 223 .. he uzi was designed for 9mm ...
and most ar kits need uzi mags for the conversion in ar15s . whats that tell ya ?

 

[mkellett]

I do own both... A Rock River Arms AR that I built, and a Vector semi carbine. They are both reliable, cheap to shoot, equally accurate, and easy to maintain. Now, the pro's and con's...

The Uzi has more cool factor, in my opinion. It's fairly heavy for its size, but it's no heavier than the AR in actual use. With the stock folded up, the Uzi becomes a smaller, more compact package. Uzi mags are pretty cheap, but parts and accessories are not nearly as plentiful as they are for the AR platform.

The AR, as stated above, has so many accessories and crap you can bolt onto them, it can easily become over-done. Parts are cheap and plentiful. I use the VM Hytek magwell block, which accepts unmodified Uzi mags, and it runs flawlessly. It's also nice to be able to share a lower with two uppers (.223 and 9mm) and have two guns in one, so to speak. However, the 9mm cost me about twice as much to build up, as I paid for my Vector. If you want an AR system, I highly recommend the RRA brand, and the VM Hytek mag block arrangement. Very high quality and no fit or function issues.

All that being said, when I grab a bag to go shoot every week, I usually take only one of my carbines, to reduce my cleaning chores. Of the four (Baretta CX4, Bobcat BW5, 9mm AR, Uzi Carbine) I usually take the Uzi or the Bobcat. The Uzi is alot of fun to shoot, provides the most sensory feedback of all four (this is important because a 9mm can get boring to shoot really fast) and is just plain cool.

 

[cookie]

I own both also.

My IMI Model A has never failed to fire, after many thousands of rounds. It looks cool and is a breeze to clean. My 9mm AR has also been 100% reliable, but hasn't seen a fraction of the use the UZI has. Also the AR takes a bit longer to clean up.

 

[Brian Ski]

Well I guess I am the odd one in the group.... I have both, but they are both full autos... I hate to say it..... I have never shot the 9mm M16 yet.... But from the guy I got it from, he said it works well until it gets dirty (few hundred rounds)... They you start to have a few problems... At least my F/A Vector is flawless...

Dam... I need to have someone that shows up and says lets go shooting!!!!

 

[Neo]

I have both in full auto, both run very smoothly and I am real bad on cleaning them. They are both very realiable weapons.

You will know have to get both of them

 

[Vegas SMG]

I also own both in FULL AUTO and prefer the UZI over the M16/9 any day of the week. This from a stand point of being able to keep the gun on target, (on FA), and the overall feel of the guns, (the M16/9 is choppy).
Even if the M16/9 were easier to clean, and it's not, I'd still select the UZI. Even if the M16/9 ran 100% perfectly, and it doesn't when it's dirty, I like the solid feel of the UZI. For about the same price, you can own another firearm rather than another upper.

 

[davidl]

I had an SGW AR-15 that worked ok, in semi. Though failed to feed in auto on many occasions, it was magazine related.
It used modified sterling mags. It was frustrating, to the point
of disposing of the weapon.

 

[alaman]

Got both in f/a and shoot and enjoy both equally. AR is factory f/a. Also have semi factory AR. Uzi is easier to clean is the only major difference.