Norinco parts gun....

RebelGray

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Was at a gunshow toting around my 320 conversion over the weekend looking for bits of oppertunity. As I'm still out a barrel I stuck the fake can-shroud on it and left my poor matching S/N barrel at home. The show was OK, I was tempted a couple of times to trade off the Uzi for some more rare antiquities, but as the Uzi serves a vital function as my trunk gun, I couldnt give it up.

Anyhow I'm on my way out to the car and this guy coming in notices the Norinco and asks if I want another one. I ask him what he wants out of it, and he says its probably only good for parts, he gave it to his 18 yr old son who had no understanding of firearms, and the guy says he thinks the kid destroyed it.

I take a look in his trunk and its pretty hacked up. The barrel was intact TG, and only 30 SNs off of mine!....the stock had been hacked on pretty bad too and, although worse than my attempt at making a normal looking butt for my UZI, wasnt that bad. The gun itself showed very little sign of tampering other than missing the front sight post and rear peep notch. The guts looked OK on a cursory inspection, and the grip/well was fine. I told the guy I'd take it off his hands for a reasonable price and he said $100.

Done.

So I'm headed up to the gravle pit I use as a testing ground, because I want to shoot my 320 with my new barrel. I've got ten 30rnd mags all loaded and ready to go with some Hirtenberger +P and I'm anxious to give it a run. I'm also sort of curious if this other UZI still functions. Afterall it *looked* OK.

After making sure I was clear incase of a ka-boom, or other such event I cock the bolt, which feels funny for some reason but I attributed it to just being a different gun.

Well, I have to say, you guys who are rich enough to afford an FA Uzi are lucky. The SOB's kid welded some kind of nail into the bolt, removed the striker assembily, and cut it so the trigger acted as a bolt stop and the gun functioned as a simple blowback open bolt. In my cursory glance of the internals I must have missed the missing striker assembily (the second spring was in there, held in place by a wooden dowel in the bolt).

After the obligitory two magazines through the thing, I tore the gun down to its base components and saw that the damage was not irreperable other than the bolt. I threw the bolt in a river on the way home after stripping it, as the welding job had destroyed any chance of returning it to SA operation. I had enough spares for the firing mechanism that I've got it to its original SA operation, but I've got some qualms as just what to do with the gun....I'm contemplating building it back up with Vektor parts and using the other Norinco bits as spares for my other 320, but I dont know yet...

anyhow, just had to share. That was my excitement for the weekend.
 

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Hey, for $100.00, you still did real well even without the bolt. I'd keep the parts for spares, even the receiver. Never know when you may get a cracked weld joint. One last note, I'd reconsider using +P ammo in a Norinco barrel. Karl.
 

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Hirtenberger bad juju in a Norinco barrel? Any better in a Bushmaster? I have one on order, due in later this week...

I'd end up replacing the bolt anyhow, like I did in my first gun. Man, I have enough invested in these damn things to have bought a post ban Vektor :(

After shooting the SW5 that I was thinking of buying before I picked up the 320, I'm actually glad I got the Norinco instead. I thought regular HK94s felt cheap, the SWs are awful...

Now I need to get my old Commando MkIII back tho :)
 

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I have a Bushy barrel and shoot +P, and have tried +P+. But I just don't trust it to shoot all the time. For +P+, I ONLY trust factory barrels. IMI SMG barrels were rated to handle twice the pressure of +P+ ammo. That's a barrel that will handle +P+ for a lifetime. Aftermarket or SA barrels just aren't that good. Karl.
 

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RebelGray said:
That was my excitement for the weekend.

Wow and I will bet you heart pounded for a few seconds while you were thinking "WTF" as the UZI started doing it's thing...

Good thing it was a remote trial as that $100 investment could have cost you dearly... Just the same, it also points to a simple conversion method that even a kid could use....

Scarry huh!
 

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I'll admit to my fair share of experimentation as a kid on toys, however the only one I got to rip was a M11/9, of course it went back to it original configuration after I got it to work, it was just one of those things I wanted to try. I eventually bought a pre-86 Class III M11 and it still lives with my dealer friend in Idaho...I havnt shot it in forever but its there just in case.

Looking at the guts of my un-fouled=with Norinco, I dont see how he did it...the extractor/ejector on the bolt face would get in the way and take most of the impact of the bolt coming forward instead of the primer. The ejector/extractor that I pulled from the destroyed bolt looks identicle to the one on my functioning Norinco. Still....an exciting time though.

I'm more impressed by the STEN some kid built when I was a senior in High School back in 1995. The shop teacher even helped him put the thing togather. I think they welded the bolt face to the barrel and left it at that. Not sure where the gun is today, but if its not been significantly altered, its both a beautiful reproduction, and a ticking NFA time bomb.

Anyhow, I'm contemplating yet another barrel for my operational gun, thinking of may be a .40 S&W one from Barrel-x-change.

Speaking of barrels, I need to find a bit of pipe for a restoration project I'm undertaking. Anyone know where I might be able to find some steel pipe that I can sleeve an uncontoured shotgun barrel with (about 3/4" internal dia', may be a hair bigger). I asked this on ARFcom but some moron reported my post to the moderator for an as-yet-unknown reason.
 
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