New Here looking for first SMG

[AKarms]

Don’t understand your comment. “Moves more than top cover does.” Once in place the block doesn’t move at all

I know this has been discussed before, but my picture below is how I approach this.
I prefer this instead of using a block that gets threaded into the bolt that moves more than the topcover lug does.

 

[AKarms]

Don’t understand your comment. “Moves more than top cover does.” Once in place the block doesn’t move at all

I know this has been discussed before, but my picture below is how I approach this.
I prefer this instead of using a block that gets threaded into the bolt that moves more than the topcover lug does.

With this method you need spare parts or spare top covers to put a host back to factory configuration. With my bolts you do not

I know this has been discussed before, but my picture below is how I approach this.
I prefer this instead of using a block that gets threaded into the bolt that moves more than the topcover lug does.

 

[amphibian]

Don’t understand your comment. “Moves more than top cover does.” Once in place the block doesn’t move at all

With this method you need spare parts or spare top covers to put a host back to factory configuration. With my bolts you do not

You have allen head bolts that secure the block to the bolt. What I'm saying is that those bolts can loosen up. There is no concern of that happening if you use a modified cocking lug like I'm saying and if someone has 1 registered bolt like you are trying to sell, I don't see them having multiple spare topcovers being necessary and even if they did, not a big deal to get another lug TIG welded.

 

[AKarms]

You have allen head bolts that secure the block to the bolt. What I'm saying is that those bolts can loosen up. There is no concern of that happening if you use a modified cocking lug like I'm saying and if someone has 1 registered bolt like you are trying to sell, I don't see them having multiple spare topcovers being necessary and even if they did, not a big deal to get another lug TIG welded.

Blue loctite. They don’t loosen up

 

[AKarms]

You have allen head bolts that secure the block to the bolt. What I'm saying is that those bolts can loosen up. There is no concern of that happening if you use a modified cocking lug like I'm saying and if someone has 1 registered bolt like you are trying to sell, I don't see them having multiple spare topcovers being necessary and even if they did, not a big deal to get another lug TIG welded.

The heavy bolts from barrel exchange have removable top plates. Those were no issue either

 

[amphibian]

Blue loctite. They don’t loosen up

No offense but my money is on a TIG weld over Loctite. Also nothing to worry about misplacing / losing your custom block somewhere. Not saying your method won't work. Just my preference.

 

[amphibian]

The heavy bolts from barrel exchange have removable top plates. Those were no issue either

I know that. I have a BarrelXchange Mini / Micro 22LR bolt and I sold my Micro so I never remove the block (for full time Mini usage) and that bolt is aluminum. If I still had my Micro, I would go with a modified lug w/ a Mini topcover vs the removeable block.
Again, my preference.

 

[AKarms]

I know that. I have a BarrelXchange Mini / Micro 22LR bolt and I sold my Micro so I never remove the block (for full time Mini useage) and that bolt is aluminum. If I still had my Micro, I would go with a modified lug w/ a Mini topcover vs the removeable block.
Again, my preference.

And to solve that, you just don’t use my block, and leave the slot open and modify a top cover. It’s just an option

 

[RoverDave]

I make them to different dimensions.

Ah, so you must make them with very thin feet to run on all three guns, not the feet as shown in the photo. It's no trade secret, it's been done many times. It's nice that you make the option available to people

 

[RoverDave]

I Don’t even know how to do that

Send me a PM with the link to your video. I'll post it here for you.

 

[RoverDave]

It’s just an option

The removable plate is going to be the preferred option for most people that don't have access to custom TIG welding. And easier to sell later since it will appeal to more buyers.

 

[AKarms]

Ah, so you must make them with very thin feet to run on all three guns, not the feet as shown in the photo. It's no trade secret, it's been done many times. It's nice that you make the option available to people

No. I don’t make them with thin feet. As shown in the photo is complete and exactly how it runs

 

[AKarms]

Send me a PM with the link to your video. I'll post it here for you.

Sent you a pm

 

[Starvingboy]

Back on topic: for a first subgun I went with a Stemple. I like the ability to change the configuration around and try different things on the same receiver. I have tried a few others, and actually own a few other subguns, but that one still makes me smile.

That said, if you have your heart set on a uzi, get the one you want and don’t cheap out.

 

[AKarms]

Back on topic: for a first subgun I went with a Stemple. I like the ability to change the configuration around and try different things on the same receiver. I have tried a few others, and actually own a few other subguns, but that one still makes me smile.

That said, if you have your heart set on a uzi, get the one you want and don’t cheap out.

Stemple is a great first subgun

 

[regalgseguy]

Rover Dave (the guy who wrote the UZI book) says that a converted IMI is the best UZI you can buy, I've owned a Vector and IMI SMG and the IMI is the one I would go with.

 

[SecondAmend]

Since 2006 I've had a Vector full size Uzi that is one of the last ones that they made (in 2003) from one of the last receivers that Group Industries made (in 1986). I'm the second owner. The only discrepancy that I've noted is that a FAB Defense tri-rail hand guard doesn't fit. Vector .45 ACP and .22LR conversions, and Vector drums have been problem free.

MHO, YMMV, etc.

 

[tomk]

M11/9 is always a great option. .22, 9mm, 5.56 are all options (+ more?). Drums or stick mags are options. Probably a beltfed in the future at some point. Adjust 9mm rate of fire to your preference. Very versatile.

Several good options available. Go shoot some and get something that YOU like. Have fun and good luck!

 

[Chef]

M11/9 is always a great option. .22, 9mm, 5.56 are all options (+ more?). Drums or stick mags are options. Probably a beltfed in the future at some point. Adjust 9mm rate of fire to your preference. Very versatile.

Several good options available. Go shoot some and get something that YOU like. Have fun and good luck!

Dude said he's "always wanted an UZI".
If he would have wrote that he was looking for a "do-it-all lego MG on a budget", then the MAC would have been a good recommendation, but a MAC isn't an UZI, it's just a lead slinging bullet hose.

 

[tomk]

Sorry if I hurt your feelings with my post. It was not intended that way. Others have chimed in that possibly a Stemple could be a contender for a "first SMG choice". I currently have a factory IMI Uzi SMG, and have bought / sold Group and Vector SMGs. While fun, I think that other platforms may also be attractive to a first time buyer. I also have the M11/9 with numerous uppers. The Lage system completely transforms the gun into a repeat proven SMG completion gun. If you haven't done so already you may be very surprised when you shoot one that is properly set-up. I still like the Uzi but it would likely get sold before a few others.

There is a lot alreasy written about the various Uzi conversion guns. Sear guns, bolt guns, form 1 guns, Group, Vector, and various better-known conversions (Form 2)...it all comes down to budget, completeness of the conversion, and quality of the work done. At current gun prices most any issues not already fixed can be corrected. I would personally focus on how "correct" the conversion is so that factory parts can be used as spares.