New ar15 trigger slap inducing full auto simulator.

[strobro32]

2 new kids on the block. Cheaper too.

https://wideopentriggers.com/wot-hard-reset-trigger

https://www.recoil-technology-systems.com/graves-v2-art.html#/

 

[ScottinTexas]

I imagine the BATF is less than happy these days...

 

[glockman]

The WOT seems like a good way to spend some $$. I might even pick up 2.... and then start searching for more.223/5.56...

 

[Jack007]

For those that may not want to participate in the whole Big Daddy BS... These folks have them and no need for memberships etc... Shipping was reasonable as well. Rare Breed did def ding us with their ridiculous shipping costs.

https://lead-steel.com/wide-open-trigger-wot15-hard-reset-fcu

 

[ScottinTexas]

I think the WOT trigger being cast and 'guaranteed for 10,000 rounds' is not great.

 

[Chisel]

The Graves ART triggers is going to be around $1000, but it seems to be more of a drop in without any tuning. Although you will need to trim the bottom of your bolt carrier.

I like the Rare Breed, but the WOT seems to be very similar. So similar that Rare Breed sent out a cease and desist to them due to patent infringement.

Graves got the patent for this type of design and sold it to another company. Rare Breed bought that patent and is using it in the FRT. I doubt Graves would have a patent infringement on his ART trigger and probably designed something similar, but different (his has a roller that interacts with the BCG).

 

[strobro32]

Graves ART trigger demo

 

[Gaujo]

My buddy put his FRT in a new dedicated PSA pistol lower today with a 5 oz buffer and Shockwave blade stabilizer. Thing worked like a charm first time out. The SW blade was very uncomfortable in the shoulder and we will replace it with a SB brace soon. We sot 200 rounds of 300BO with subs and HV in a PSA 7" upper. We both were pulling easy singles, which was a surprise to us both. It really is a fun and fast way to waste lots of ammo.

https://www.brbdistributors.net/AR-15_pistol_Brace/p7108556_20399274.aspx

$38, sb2 knockoff. I got one myself. Decent.

 

[Haris1]

For those that may not want to participate in the whole Big Daddy BS... These folks have them and no need for memberships etc... Shipping was reasonable as well. Rare Breed did def ding us with their ridiculous shipping costs.

https://lead-steel.com/wide-open-trigger-wot15-hard-reset-fcu

please recheck that site
I dont seethe WOT triggers available

 

[Jack007]

I dont seethe WOT triggers available

When I posted that on 09/08 they were available. I know. I bought two. And several friends did as well. One bought FIVE. Looks like pulling the trigger was the smart thing to do? Perhaps the RB attorneys sent a letter?

 

[strobro32]

Perhaps the RB attorneys sent a letter?

Yes, RB sent a cease and desist letter. They did not like that they are paying royalties to Graves (the original patent holder) and WOT is not. You can still buy the WOT tiggers at Big Daddy Unlimited or the WOT website but for $50 more than Jacks website.

 

[strobro32]

https://www.brbdistributors.net/AR-15_pistol_Brace/p7108556_20399274.aspx

$38, sb2 knockoff. I got one myself. Decent.

Thanks G.

 

[Jack007]

As usual, Strobo is in the know!
Apparently BDU is going to ignore any letters from RB, given the public airing of their laundry.
It will be interesting to see what Lead and Steel is like? Apparently BDU is not off to a great start with this product. LOTS of unhappy customers posting about missing anti walk pins etc. BDU replies that some triggers have shipped with a "new anti walk technology" .... whatever that means?
Honestly I'm not trying to knock BDU, but I've been leery of them from the get go and nothing I've seen since has pushed me in a different direction. I wonder if eventually, Colion Noir, Miculek, and MAC Channel will regret their shilling for them?

 

[glockman]

I also bought one from L&S on the 8th. They showed sold out as of the 9th. I just checked and my payment to them posted to my account on the 8th also. I got a conformation email about my order, then a your order has shipped email with a UPS tracking number on the 9th. The tracking number still shows check back tomorrow for an updated delivery date message, and just shows that a label was created. Sent a email today to see if it is on the way or not. Have heard nothing back as of yet.

Jack007-- Have you seen anything yet from L&S?????

 

[Jack007]

Have heard nothing back as of yet.

You may want to double check your tracking?
Mine shows shipped the 8th and at my local UPS hub for delivery tomorrow (15th).
UPS can be funny sometimes, especially with their CHEAP ground rates they give commercial accounts.
I could have driven there and picked it up in a day...yet it's taken a week.

 

[glockman]

Mine was supposed to ship on the 9th. Maybe I am a day late and a dollar short... Doh!!! Hopefully they will get back to me and let me know what is going on. I double checked the tracking and it still shows waiting to be received by the carrier.

 

[HighriseATX]

Mine was supposed to ship on the 9th. Maybe I am a day late and a dollar short... Doh!!! Hopefully they will get back to me and let me know what is going on. I double checked the tracking and it still shows waiting to be received by the carrier.

Following, I'm in the exact same boat.

 

[Jack007]

Showed up today.
The rough casting is a far cry from the Rare Breed. But it's all about performance so we shall see....

 

[ScottinTexas]

Showed up today.
The rough casting is a far cry from the Rare Breed. But it's all about performance so we shall see....

I'd be more worried about the 'Warranted for 10,000 rounds'. That's 15-20 FA range trips at most.

The metallurgy on that trigger seems a bit sketchy. I'm no metallurgist but it appears they are trying to keep the price low but if it reduces the life and value then that's false economy.

 

[Jack007]

'Warranted for 10,000 rounds'. That's 15-20 FA range trips at most.

Piker!
Maybe FIVE trips for a REAL shooter! Bwahahahaha!