Need suggestions on fixing Golani

[loner42]

Strongly suggest you keep an eye on the headspace.

 

[Jim C]

send it on. I'll take care of it!

 

[IMDB]

Hello all I'm new to UZI Talk but I visited this sight often before I started my galil build.There are a lot of knowledge about galils on this sight and I appreciated the help.I posted this response in another forum where people were having the same problem.

The bolt carrier hitting the receiver is an easy fix with a dremal tool. The bullet striking the breach is a little more difficult you have to remove the barrel, drill out the bullet guide rivet and move the bullet guide further toward the mag well. You have to notch the guide so it will actually fit between the receiver lugs. I have 3 galils, 2 are century and 1 that I built. The 2 century galils had the same issues as yours maybe worse, they would drive the bullet into the case. The galil that I built I had to notch the bullet guide to get it to fit in the receiver along with lapping the bolt in to get the to lock up correctly. All 3 rifles run 100% now and the one that I built is my favorite rifle. The bullet barely touches the breach area with very little marks on HPs and SPs. IMDB

After posting this I think the problem is an issue with the bullet guides being too close to the breach. Could someone post a picture of an IMI galil with a mag inserted so I could see the bullet guide in relation to front of the mag.Also the same with a century galil that having this problem. My theory is the timing is off when the round is feeding.The shoulder of the case should start to touch the guide as the bullet tip touches the breach face. There again I could be totally wrong about this. Thanks IMDB

 

[Jim C]

:nutkick There we go with the overkill again. shew.:bs why? why? why? If this was an IMI, i could see spending the extra paying a gunsmith like me to take the barrel off, and install an IMI guide or make one from scratch, but, the Golani is at best a knockoff and only a 500 dollar gun. I cant see putting three or four more hundred in it and still have a five hundred dollar piece of sh-t.:nutkick Besides, the guide is not too far forward, it is too low. the shelf that it is sitting on has been machined too deep. you cant move the guide to the rear unless you relieve the left side rail. the bullet guide rests against it already.

 

[IMDB]

Thanks Jim c for the welcome, all it cost me was the price of a new rivet and less the 30 min of work so I wouldn't call that overkill. If you read my post carefully you will notice that you have to notch the bullet guide to fit between the rail-locking lug area. Of course I know that not everyone has a receiver wrench and barrel vise but I built one of the galils so I had the tools. All 3 of my galils cycle smoothly now with no issues and the only thing I did was move the bullet guide. IMDB

I forgot to add that I had read somewhere else about the area for the guide was too low so I shimmed the guide just a little but then my bolt would not go into battery.This was an earlier attempt to fix the problem.

 

[Oswald2001]

All 3 of my galils cycle smoothly now with no issues and the only thing I did was move the bullet guide. IMDB

I forgot to add that I had read somewhere else about the area for the guide was too low so I shimmed the guide just a little but then my bolt would not go into battery.This was an earlier attempt to fix the problem.

All it takes is a QUALIFIED builder! :bow

 

[Jim C]

well, that just goes back to the receiver being at fault. you should not have to notch the bullet guide on any galil to make it feed. It is not intended to be moved back. There are many ways to make it feed and function. It just makes sense to try the most simple approach first. If that doesnt work, you haven't spent any money, and you still have options. As i said before, you could have eliminated the problem with a deburring tool, and arkansas stone and a little elbow grease and time and not had to remove the barrel and spend useless time machining and cobbling parts that were not meant to be moved lateraly in the first place. It's yours cob it up anyway you want. And you say the ONLY thing you did was move the bullet guide. ONLY. That is quite a bit of work to accomplish the same thing i did in thirty minutes without disturbing ANY factory parts. didnt mean to make you feel unwelcome. Just stating the ovious.:bang :boohoo :welcome

 

[Oswald2001]

The NON-QUALIFIED builder should not have installed the bullet guide in the receiver the way that he did.

Blame the receiver?

No. That is for the 'other site'.

You build with the receiver that you have.

Just like THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS have before and ended up with perfectly fine functional fun Galils.

The guys that are QUALIFIED (and there are plenty) turn out good Galil builds all the time.

The guys that are NON-QUALIFIED whine and snivel...and lie.


Some guys like to brag (lie?) about their supposed skills, but, unless you can build a Galil on an ORF receiver without excuses...you are NON-QUALIFIED.


The QUALIFIED builders are all using the same receivers and parts as everyone else.

The difference?

The difference is the builder.



The sewage of blather that has been migrated to this site from the cessool of the 'other site' is, and always has been, BS.

Those yahoos killed the Galil section on the other site with their sleazy smear campaign.

As a result, that section is DEAD....AND STINKIN'.

Now they want to do the same here. Figures.



The fact is, unless you are turning out functional reliable Galils...you lack the skills to build a Galil and are NON-QUALIFIED.

Bow to the experience of those that are QUALIFIED and CAN actually build functional reliable Galils.

Learn from them or remain a NON-QUALIFIED yahoo.


And, please, save the yammering for the 'other site' before this site gets a fatal dose of the 'Other Site' Yahoo's Toxic Sleaze.



Remember, just cause you can't do it....doesn't mean it can't be done.


And yahoos...don't be so arrogant.

LEARN FROM THOSE WHO CAN.

 

[IMDB]

Jerry799, I don't know if you've sent your galil off yet but I'm willing to help you with you rifle for free. If your interested PM me a phone # and I'll give you a call.We don't live to far away from each other. IMDB

 

[Jim C]

fyi, oz. i have built many firearms, ak's, ar's, hk's, 1911's, and yes, GALIL's. yes plural, as in more than one. And yes, they all function as they are designed to do. I CAN, and DO, do this for a living so,:jerkoff have a nice day. and yes, you are correct about the receivers. they can all be used with a little improvement. and yes you are right again, not everyone has the know how to make these recievers work correctly. But, some of us do. Just because our names are not plastered all over the internet, doesnt mean we aren't out there. As far as lying, why would anyone on here have to? I for one couldn't care less if you believe me or not. I dont dedicate me whole shop to building Galils. There are millions of other firearms that have to be repaired also. I cant dedicate all my time to an AK on steroids. I just hate to see people waste money and time doing things that they dont actually have to. And, thats all I will say, I tired of beating this dead horse.:hung

 

[sonnydaze]

jim c why even descuss it with oswald he is a broken record . i cant even count how many colt 1911 i have had to throat , lets not even count the clones . did you ever work on the colt sporter ar 15s from the early 90s , half would not function out of the box .

 

[Jim C]

yea, i know. thats why i said i was done with this thread. Some people are just untrainable. LOL. :wtf

 

[loner42]

Guys, this is without a doubt the best feature on a gun board. I finally did it and now wish i'd done it sooner. No more psychobabble , non-productive comments from the "armchair expert" thats never built a gun in his life.
All you see is this:
Oswald2001
This message is hidden because Oswald2001 is on your ignore list.

It's great, try it.................................

 

[Jim C]

cool, how'd ya do it? is it in your settings? I didnt think he was a gunsmith. Let alone a builder.lol.:roflmao bye OZZY!:toilet :asshole I always noticed he referred to the qualified builders without including himself. Halarious. get on your soapbox and tell us how many builds you have done so we can bow down to the all powerful OZ. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.:finger

 

[Jim C]

gotta go. gotta finish BUILDING a uspsa open para ordnance for a customer!!! wait, thats another BUILD. LOL.

P.S.
found the ignore button thanx loner42!

 

[sonnydaze]

gotta go. gotta finish BUILDING a uspsa open para ordnance for a customer!!! wait, thats another BUILD. LOL.

P.S.
found the ignore button thanx loner42!

dont keep the para hammer they have a bad habbit of breaking

 

[boscoman]

cool, how'd ya do it? is it in your settings? I didnt think he was a gunsmith. Let alone a builder.lol.:roflmao bye OZZY!:toilet :asshole I always noticed he referred to the qualified builders without including himself. Halarious. get on your soapbox and tell us how many builds you have done so we can bow down to the all powerful OZ. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.:finger

It is under user prefrences, then under miscellaneous , buddy ignore list.

 

[Jim C]

using a sti. thier bbl bushings are junk too. this one was split from factory. basicly all im using is the frame and slide. all other stuff is top notch aftermarket. btw, i was looking earlier in brownells, i cant find a commander length bull barrel for another 1911 im building. besides storm lake, do you know of anyone selling them?

 

[Oswald2001]

It is under user prefrences, then under miscellaneous , buddy ignore list.

Ummmm....

Mr 'talker'...


You claimed ORF has soft receivers.

Where is the TEST RESULTS FROM AN ACCREDITING TESTING LAB?


Out of 10,000 receivers...you can't find 1 single instance of a supposedly 'soft' receiver.


You 'talk the talk'.

So...where are your results?


Hmmm....


Slo far...just slandering 'talk' from you on this matter.


All we need to see is documentation on 1 supposedly 'soft' receiver.

Out of 10,000 receivers....it shouldn't be hard.


All ORF receivers tested so far have checked out right in the hardness range as specified by ORF.



So are you going to back up your slandering claim?

Or is that a libelous claim?

Maybe you could clarify the issue for me. Are you slandering or libeling ORF?

Or both, possibly?


Anyway, still waiting for the TEST RESULTS FROM AN ACCREDITED TESTING LAB.

You have 10,000 receivers to choose from.

I'm...still...waiting.


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[Oswald2001]

cool, how'd ya do it? is it in your settings? I didnt think he was a gunsmith. Let alone a builder.lol.:roflmao bye OZZY!:toilet :asshole I always noticed he referred to the qualified builders without including himself. Halarious. get on your soapbox and tell us how many builds you have done so we can bow down to the all powerful OZ. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.:finger

I am hardly all powerful.

Just sensible.


I make nothing but sense.


You may want to try that sometime.





Plenty of guys can build Galil clones just fine...because they are QUALIFIED builders.



BTW, you are 'not' on the list of QUALIFIED builders yet.

You 'are' on the list of 'blame the receivers' yahoos, though.


Gee, I would think you would fit right in on the 'other site'.

It's chalk full of 'workman that blame their tools'.