M11/9 steel mags, who's the best?

[telsonman]

I've got a bunch of zytels, and I'm about to dive over into the steel mag realm. Seems there is a huge following for Zmags, but nothing for the USMG steel mags. The USMG ones kind of remind me of a metal copy of zytels.

So who's had both and can give a factual opinion on which is better?

 

[sleepy]

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1780

Richard Lage uses zmags and that is all I need to know.

 

[Schnitzeraffe]

I've got about 2 dozen Recon Ord PAM2 mags.

Some worked well from day one, some worked well after some fiddling, some don't work at all.

I've only got two Zmags (both 50 rounders)... but they both ran 100% from day one.

I am going to get a dozen or so 30 rounders next. :banana

So my vote goes for the Zmags.

 

[Kursk]

I have zytels, recon ord PAM2 mags, and ZMAGS, and have owned a M11/9 since the late 1990's. The shockwave ZMAGS are the best.

Buy ZMAGS and forget the rest.

 

[rblmm]

All my PAM2 mags ran 100% from day one and I still prefer the one ZMAG I have over them. I will be ordering more ZMAGs in both the 30 and 50 round varieties. I only keep the Zytels around for nostalgia.

 

[Villafuego]

Z-mags without question......all my PAM-2's work fine, but I run my gun "stock as a block", and like to be able to shoot with the stock collapsed sometimes....can't do that with a PAM-2 mag ...

 

[robertmcm]

Liquidated all of my zytels and Pam-2 conversions most of which worked really well. Bought a bunch of Z mags. Liked them so much I bought a bunch more and just put them up

 

[Adolf]

PAM mags seem to work awesome when I had my M-11/Nine.

 

[zipakna]

Understand this. Most Metal mags out there were designed for a gun Other than the M11/NINE. they were modified to work in the M11/NINE.
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the Z-Mage were Built Specifically for the M11/NINE by Marty at Shockwave Technologies. they were beta tested, and Fine tuned by this Community (UZITALK/MAC10TALK) http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?73720-Shockwave-Technologies-Z-mag-(beta)-review-thread
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with 0.0 Percent doubt you should ditch the zytels and any other mag for the M11/NINE and get Z-Mags. as many as you can. some people have waited 20+ years for someone to make this mag.

 

[PDXsparky]

http://shockwavetechnologies.com/site/?page_id=1780

Richard Lage uses zmags and that is all I need to know.

+1

 

[sigstroker]

Can you use the factory SWD mag loader on the zmags?

 

[Garrett]

Can you use the factory SWD mag loader on the zmags?

Yes. I use it with all my M11 mags (Zytel, Pam, Madsen, and Z-Mags).

 

[Salbones]

Unfortunately, I live in the People's Republic of Massachusetts and the "High Capacity Mag Ban" lives on here. If has more than 10 rnds and it wasn't made before 94, you can't have it. PERIOD. So PAM2 is my only alternative to the Zytels. Sure wish I could try out a Z-Mag....

 

[Rag9]

With exception to certain date stamped mags and recent production of zmags, how would one know if a magazine was built before 94?

 

[Garrett]

If has more than 10 rnds and it wasn't made before 94, you can't have it. PERIOD. So PAM2 is my only alternative to the Zytels.

You can also use modified Madsen M50 mags. They fit a little loose in the magwell, but they still seem to run fine. I've heard of people shimming them to take up the slop, too.

 

[CoffeeFreak]

You can also use modified Madsen M50 mags. They fit a little loose in the magwell, but they still seem to run fine. I've heard of people shimming them to take up the slop, too.

They made an adapter to fit into the magwell to take up the slop. They were good mags.

 

[Garrett]

They made an adapter to fit into the magwell to take up the slop. They were good mags.

My only issue with the magwell adapter is it locks you in to that one type of mag. That was why I suggested shimming the mags, so you could switch between the different mags without having to swap adapters back and forth.

I suppose the other "pre ban" option is to just get a STEN magwell conversion. Again, that now locks you in to using just STEN mags (well, and Lanchesters), but it's not a bad way to go if you are limited to pre'-94 stuff.

 

[telsonman]

Well guys in just going to have to get some zmags now.

 

[Concorde]

Good decision.

 

[Salbones]

How will they know? Because Z-mags are new to the market and the regime here knows it. Besides, they won't ship to us anyway.