Looks like a micro receiver on the front end. Awesome
Jan, are you in LV now; if so, let me know. We can go to the shot show in January and go to the IWI booth.
Looks like a micro receiver on the front end. Awesome
This right here doesn't make sense.
The 7.62 NATO ACE uses the 7.62 Galil waffle-mags and the 5.56 uses standard Galil mags.
Perhaps they will be changing it for the civilian market. It's a bit disappointing they won't be making new 7.62 waffle mags or importing them and that we will be stuck with AR mags in the 5.56.
Im going with a 16" 762x39 model.
Note:
7.62x39mm uses standard AK type magazines
7.62 NATO uses standard SR25 type magazines
5.56 NATO uses standard AR-16/M16/STANAG magazines
Jan, are you in LV now; if so, let me know. We can go to the shot show in January and go to the IWI booth.
Im going with a 16" 762x39 model.
Posted on IWI's facebook page:
Here are the Galil ACE Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Prices (MSRP) for the coming year, along with anticipated shipping dates:
February 2015, GALIL ACE Pistol (8.3" barrel) in 7.62x39mm - $1,749.00
March 2015, GALIL ACE Pistol (8.3" barrel) in 7.62x39mm, with side folding stabilizer brace - $1,849.00
April 2015, GALIL ACE Rifle (16" barrel) in 7.62x39mm with side folding adjustable buttstock - $1,899.00
August 2015, GALIL ACE Pistol (11.8" barrel) in 7.62 NATO - $1,949.00
September 2015, GALIL ACE Pistol (11.8" barrel) in 7.62 NATO - $2,049.00
October 2015, GALIL ACE Rifle (16" or 20" barrel) in 7.62 NATO - $2,099.00
Look for 5.56 NATO by the end of 2015, early 2016.
Note:
7.62x39mm uses standard AK type magazines
7.62 NATO uses standard SR25 type magazines
5.56 NATO uses standard AR-16/M16/STANAG magazines
Using all standard mags is a great idea.
Jan, are you in LV now; if so, let me know. We can go to the shot show in January and go to the IWI booth.
I received an interesting email from Roberto, a NATO employee, who explained that despite the term being commonly used, the specification does not exist. Apparently the draft STANAG 4179 was never ratified by member states and therefor it was discarded by default. If you call up the NATO Standardisation Agency (Bruxelles) and ask them for the STANAG 4179 document they will tell you that it does not exist.
In a letter reportedly written to a small home defense shotgun maker, the nation’s top gun control regulator says shouldering a Sig Sauer-made SB15 pistol stabilizing brace could change a firearm’s classification rendering it subject to bureaucratic and expensive National Firearms Act rules.
The Nov. 14 letter was written in response to Black Aces Tactical owner Eric Lemoine’s submission of a short-barreled shotgun design that incorporated the SB15 brace. The brace is intended to allow a shooter to fire an AR-style pistol with one hand using a Velcro strap to attach it to the arm.
The ATF letter has many AR pistol owners concerned as it could be seen as a blanket determination on illegal use of a Sig Brace, subjecting violators to years in prison and a permanent ban on firearms ownership.
“The submitted weapon, as described and depicted above … is not a ‘firearm’ as defined by the NFA provided the SicTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace is used as originally designed and not used as a shoulder stock,” wrote Acting Chief of the BATF’s Firearms Technology Branch Max Kingery. “However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a ‘short-barreled shotgun.’ ”
Black Ace Tactical owner Lemoine told Shooting Sports Retailer the ATF letter applies solely to the shotgun design submitted to the Firearms Technology Branch and doesn’t apply to uses with AR pistols.
[...]
In March, the agency made what was arguably a groundbreaking ruling on the use of the brace, saying shouldering an AR pistol with an SB15 would not change it to a short-barreled rifle that requires separate registration and a tax stamp.
“Accessories such as the Sig Stability Brace have not been classified by [ATF] as shoulder stocks and, therefore, using the brace improperly does not constitute a design change,” ATF wrote. “We do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses the weapon.”
Since that March letter, the market for AR pistols has exploded, with manufacturers, retailers and shooters seeing a new opportunity to engage with shorter barreled AR-style pistols fitted with a Sig Brace without having to deal with the headache of SBR registration.
Still the ATF’s latest letter to Black Aces Tactical may be a shot across the bow at pistol makers and shooters who use the brace as a makeshift stock.
“The BATFE is in the process of reversing its position on shouldering arm braces due to a change in leadership. It might not be this moment, but it’ll be soon,” a worried shooter said on an Internet forum post about the ATF letter. “Investing a ton of money in weapons that are only usable with ‘arm braces’ may not be a wise plan for the future.”
“The BATFE is in the process of reversing its position on shouldering arm braces due to a change in leadership. It might not be this moment, but it’ll be soon,” a worried shooter said on an Internet forum post
that right there is enough for me to pull the bullshit plug.
some moron tried using the brace to gain OAL on a shotgun that had a barrel under 18" , they said no.
End of story.
However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol staabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would be classified as a "short-barreled shotgun" as defined in the NFA, 26 U.S.C. SS 5845(a)(1) because the brace has then been made or remade, designed or redesigned form its originally intended purpose.
What it looks like in this case was that the guy had a legal Any Other Weapon, "AOW." He then asked guidance on adding the Sig Brace. The shotgun would remain an AOW with the Sig Brace installed and used as designed. But use the sig brace as a "stock" (mounting to the shoulder) on the AOW and the AOW in question would then become a Short Barrel Shotgun, "SBS", and you would be in violation of the NFA unless you had in fact registered as a SBS rather than an AOW. So again, just mounting the brace to the shoulder is in effect "converting" your weapon.
Now to what degree the $5 AOW stamp vs the $200 SBS NFA tax stamps affected is unknown... But what is known is that just the act of a mounting a weapon equipped to one's shoulder with a stabilizing brace now at least converts it to a different weapon classification in this particular case per the ATF's most recent ruling. And if previous rulings hold -- if you've ever mounted the Sig Brace to your shoulder, the weapon will forever need to maintain an SBS registration, even if you remove the Sig Brace... Not doing so, or not having a SBS registration prior to mounting to your shoulder, means your committing a felony that the ATF could document, prosecute, and result in you forever losing your ability to order firearms. (Or if you document those actions for them through phone pics or videos, or anything touched by the NSA, all they'd have to do is prosecute.)