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[strobro32]

900-1100 for the K

 

[Alvin]

900-1100 for the K

That’s sick.


If only someone could figure out P90! (I know there’s a few working on it, but I’ve heard it’s complicated internally and might take a few years until coming to market).

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

Harrison is awesome. I set his AK SS up in my Mak-90 and he gave me help and encouragement along the way.

“The AK ones will work in a saiga 12”

My Saiga 12 is 100% not going to work with the AK SS. The internal rail comes back too far and blocks the area where the SS would need to be

 

[Slowmo]

Anyone gotten this to work with the B&T products?

 

[Alvin]

Harrison is awesome. I set his AK SS up in my Mak-90 and he gave me help and encouragement along the way.

“The AK ones will work in a saiga 12”

My Saiga 12 is 100% not going to work with the AK SS. The internal rail comes back too far and blocks the area where the SS would need to be

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Oh shoot, Harrison told me it would! dang.


any suggestion on how?

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

The only option I see would be to cut the rail out of the cam/selector area. I don’t know if the Saiga 12 recoils far enough back to require that portion of the rail.

Whenever I can get to the range I’d like to take slow mo video to see how far back the bolt travels

I was bummed since a fast fire 12g is my grail gun

 

[Alvin]

The only option I see would be to cut the rail out of the cam/selector area. I don’t know if the Saiga 12 recoils far enough back to require that portion of the rail.

Whenever I can get to the range I’d like to take slow mo video to see how far back the bolt travels

I was bummed since a fast fire 12g is my grail gun

My grail has always been an Mp5k, so I’m extremely lucky.

A saiga 12 takes me way back to FPSRussia days, such a badass weapon.

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

If you pursue the mp5k gun with a SS please keep us posted.

 

[Alvin]

If you pursue the mp5k gun with a SS please keep us posted.

Will do! First SS is arriving Tuesday.

Wife’s a nurse, grossed like $15,000 this month. I’ll be putting one together soon and I’ll let you know what all is needed to get it running if anything. So far I’m hearing Mac5k, GMR trip/SS, and lee lower. Then I’ll just throw money at the HK forend with stub grip (sbr stamp), choate stock, and away to the races.
Efile form 1 and 4s are taking less than a month now, which is insane.



This, but with a new Omega 9K or a Wolfman by DeadAir.

 

[Slowmo]

Will do! First SS is arriving Tuesday.

Wife’s a nurse, grossed like $15,000 this month. I’ll be putting one together soon and I’ll let you know what all is needed to get it running if anything. So far I’m hearing Mac5k, GMR trip/SS, and lee lower. Then I’ll just throw money at the HK forend with stub grip (sbr stamp), choate stock, and away to the races.
Efile form 1 and 4s are taking less than a month now, which is insane.

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This, but with a new Omega 9K or a Wolfman by DeadAir.

Might want to watch the video from Strobro’s post on 11/12/24 first. Seems there may be some wear issues with currently available parts for the MP5.

 

[strobro32]

Post #88

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

I haven’t followed the Mp5 builds but I believe there can be problems with the Lee Lowers and heavier trips.

Based on the little I’ve followed, if I was going to buy a kit now without additional research I’d go with a printed lower and lightweight trip from these guys.

https://skoprints.com/product-category/mp5-k/

Here’s the best web info I found to research further. It’s a FB group. The parts sellers post and discuss here directly and will answer questions

 

[Alvin]

Post #88

Ew, with that wear and hearing “poly” would be the solution, eh I don’t know. Might be best just to stick with the AR for now.

 

[Slowmo]

Ew, with that wear and hearing “poly” would be the solution, eh I don’t know. Might be best just to stick with the AR for now.

It seems like it’s getting very close, but not quite there. Wouldn’t surprise me if it is sorted out by summer.

 

[Alvin]

It seems like it’s getting very close, but not quite there. Wouldn’t surprise me if it is sorted out by summer.

Definitely, and 3000 rounds isn’t terrible. My only concern is, It looks like both the trip and SS are wearing out. I wouldn’t want to be drained of $200 every 2-3 months.
Are the AR platforms experiencing wear like that? Do we have an official round count so far on one build?

I of course don’t think of these as SHTF items, but range plinkers without spending $25,000-$50,000 on a transferable.
I saw a burn down video of SR15 (knight) being compared to a $400 PSA freedom, and the PSA lasted 6,000 rounds before needing a $100 barrel and a new BCG.
The idea was $4000 vs $400, but damn I don’t think a SR15 would last 60,000 rounds compared to 10 barrels and 10 BCG’s, all for what $1500? 😂 Modernism in mind, a new PSA has to be better than a military 1960s colt, any day of the week. That’s why Armorer is a whole ass MOS.

I’m a sucker for cheap/reliable.

 

[Slowmo]

Definitely, and 3000 rounds isn’t terrible. My only concern is, It looks like both the trip and SS are wearing out. I wouldn’t want to be drained of $200 every 2-3 months.
Are the AR platforms experiencing wear like that? Do we have an official round count so far on one build?

I of course don’t think of these as SHTF items, but range plinkers without spending $25,000-$50,000 on a transferable.
I saw a burn down video of SR15 (knight) being compared to a $400 PSA freedom, and the PSA lasted 6,000 rounds before needing a $100 barrel and a new BCG.
The idea was $4000 vs $400, but damn I don’t think a SR15 would last 60,000 rounds compared to 10 barrels and 10 BCG’s, all for what $1500? 😂 Modernism in mind, a new PSA has to be better than a military 1960s colt, any day of the week. That’s why Armorer is a whole ass MOS.

I’m a sucker for cheap/reliable.

I think someone has gotten maybe 10-15k out of an SS AR, and it still seemed to be working. Maybe GMR?

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

I can’t watch the “wear” video above. Is it using an old style heavier metal trip and a Lee lower?

 

[Slowmo]

I can’t watch the “wear” video above. Is it using an old style heavier metal trip and a Lee lower?

It has been a few weeks since I watched it, but I think part of the theory was that the problem arises from the Lee lower positioning the firing control bits (and particularly the hammer) too high relative to the bolt.

 

[Alvin]

I can’t watch the “wear” video above. Is it using an old style heavier metal trip and a Lee lower?

In the video it appears that the SS cam is slowly “sanding” and chipping its self out of tolerance, eventually it’ll be useless. That’s within 3,000 rounds on the Mp5. Could it be, because Chinese pot metal? Probably. I think I read somewhere that Alibaba distributors are willing to Cnc and ship the prints on metal for $7 a pop. I know they say 4140 or whatever, but steel wouldn’t chip like that or egg its self out, and is the main reason 4140 was invented, to stop wear and tear from rotation like gears.

The tripp is metal, and it too is thinning and sanding its self down, which is wild.
They’re blaming the lee lower, and saying a 3d printed lower and tripp would be the solution.

My take though, if the SS is having such force that it’s tearing its own self apart sitting in aluminum due to rate of action, it’ll shred poly. They’re claiming the Lee is out of spec and that’s what’s causing the “binding?” But, they’re just guessing. It also appears they’re working directly with SS distributors and trying to heavily market poly as the “go-to.”

It’s hard to chip 4140 even when milling it, there’d have to be some excessive heat and metal on metal contact. They may have just burned it down 3000 rounds, no idea. Or, it’s cheap metal.

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

I’m sure it’ll get worked out soon. This stuff is fairly new out of beta and still in early adopter mode. The activation mechanism isn’t that complicated to resolve metallurgically or mechanically

I saw a post on FB about a beta SS for the JTS 12G.

Now we’re talking