Golani Sgihts

[Lou the Jew]

Gents, I am unhappy with my Golani's sights. I am not in love with my front sight but feel it is functional and may come to appreciate it later down the road. The rear sight has to go but do not have any other option for a replacement at this time. Has anyone installed a different type of rear sight on the Galil? I am open to any options.

 

[hagar]

Why are you unhappy? Personally I feel that the Galil has great sights, I have eye problems and have a hard time with an AR15 or M1A, but I can see Galil sights pretty good. They were designed for battlefield accuracy, not varmint hunting, and with some practise and knowledge you can make hits to 500 yards or more with the iron sights. If you want a scope, get a 204 Ruger varmint rifle!

 

[Ady]

I have put a Hi-Viz AK-47 front sight in my rifle, but i put a decent piece of light tube in, the Hi-Viz light tubes are crap.

I also cut the "5" back peep sight into a V shape for close shooting and the kept the "3" peep sight for far shots. That V is amazing for up close targets.

 

[lcastillo]

Lou you can also try a South African thin front sight post (You can get them at 24 Hour Tactical) I think that is a big improvement over the Galil's standard front sight post. The South Africans call it a front match style post because the thinner post lets you read targets better for long distance shooting. Hell you can even get the larger R-Series sight hood also that goes along with the match post. This will open up your view quite a bit from the smaller Galil sight hood.

 

[RSR]

What weapon sights do you like?

Depending on issues you're having, putting some bright colored nail polish or brass paint on your front sight tip may help in addition to a narrower one.

And I suppose you could also have your rear peep removed and aperature holes slightly but precisely widened by a gunsmith.

Otherwise, get a red dot/1-4x scope and stock cheek riser and run with that...

 

[Lou the Jew]

My Galil is a hobby rifle and not meant for any type of Varmint hunting. As far as my preference, after 10 years in the Marines, I tend to favor A2 style iron sights. I even preferred the iron sights over the issued ACOG / EOTechs.

I appreciate the input from everyone. Lou, I am definitely going to look hard in to your suggestion as I really like the idea. I will also look into what Ady suggested. I have never been a fan of painting the front sight on any system and therefore not planning to go in that direction. I have been contemplating removing the rear sight and having a Magpul (metal), Troy or even HK sight welded on the dust cover. I am still in the initial phases of the re-configuring my Golani. So far I have decided to have Jeff do the sights, Cerakote and a Tapco trigger job.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.
The Jew

 

[RSR]

In that case, I think some of the the AK topcovers fit Galils. Since Galil topcovers are so expensive, I would recommend that route.

But anyways, remove the rear galil sights and put A2 rear sight onto the rail. You should still be able to use your front post, but would lose the rear night sight. Tennagalil could probably mod all this up for you as well as figure out a way to add/keep night sights on this setup if you wanted them. Regardless, the SA front post is a good addition.

The galil 300m peep sight when properly sighted in at 25 m/250m zero is basically a 275 yard zero. +/- 5" all the way to 325 yards.
In this chart the 37.5/275 yard zero is probably closest:

From here: http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=659

Point being, I think the Galil peeps are very effective for minute of man accuracy with substantially less opportunity for operator error sight adjustment/misadjustment resulting in misses... And just a sight flip switches to a 500 yard zero, which is ~ +20" at 300 yards with a 500 yard zero... .223/5.56's trajectory has about a 5 foot drop at 500 yards. Point being, the 500m peep and the 300m peep combined cover minute of man accuracy over the entire effective range of the 5.56 round, but again for MOA precision shooting/true marksmanship, neither is ideal.

Also, the A2 revised improved battlesight over at AR15 is a great read as well: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/328143_.html
And here's the santose improved battlesight zero referenced w/ 200 yard zero: http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=599

 

[Lou the Jew]

RSR, thanks for the write up. That was bad ass. I was already leaning towards your advice but I sold on it now. I purchased the SA front sight post from 24 hour last night but unfortunately was unable to find the R4 sight hood that goes with it. Too many projects and not enough range time. Thank you and everyone else for the help.

 

[RSR]

I'm sure some of the members here can help you with the SA front sight post hood, but I think the larger front sight loop has to due with the longer length of pull of the SADF stock and needing a larger loop to keep it from impinging on the sight picture (seeing the front sight loop w/in the peep loop and affecting accuracy) and less w/ front sight visibility/ease of acquisition... Maybe not however.

Chuck Taylor on his ultimate Galil lopped off the top 1/3rd or so of galil front sight loop to allow in more light, making it more like an HK front sight:

Have several old Galil SWAG Mag References but still looking for the battle of the 308s and Galil 308 Universal rifle issues that really cover this all in depth... But will scan and share the ones I have when I can find them.

 

[lcastillo]

RSR,

I don't necessarily disagree with you on your last post, but I don't think the South African's larger sight hood was developed taking LOP in mind. I think you are spot on with the H&K sight analogy of a more open sight to view out of down range. In fact I believe the South Africans liked the HK G3 (R2) sights that is where they got the idea to make the sight hood larger.

Great information on the graphs!

I provided a picture of the Izzy and SA sight hoods side by side. This shows the larger and smaller front sight post in each sight hood. This should help.

Lou the Jew, I will check and see if I have a spare SA sight hood in my parts that I can sell you. Hang tight I will pm you with any luck!

Regards.

Lou

 

[lcastillo]

Here are some additional pictures

 

[Mr Folgers]

I have R4 Sight hoods.

My suggestion would be to not mess with the dust cover.
If your Golani is a hobby rifle, you may one day just choose to sell it.
Permanent modifications often put firearm value down the drain-hole. One man's 'solution/quirk' is another man's bubba-job.

Use an AKM dust cover instead if you feel like trying your hand at a weld-alternative.

 

[RSR]

I have R4 Sight hoods.

My suggestion would be to not mess with the dust cover.
If your Golani is a hobby rifle, you may one day just choose to sell it.
Permanent modifications often put firearm value down the drain-hole. One man's 'solution/quirk' is another man's bubba-job.

Use an AKM dust cover instead if you feel like trying your hand at a weld-alternative.

Yep, to be clear, I was recommending putting a rail onto an AK dustcover that fits your weapon (or a finda completely stripped Galil topcover w/ no sights -- galil topcovers are a little heavier gauge sheet metal than AKs so more stable/less flex) and remove the peep sight mount or mount the AR sight onto a rail.

My assumption was Marine=marksman=military training redundancies on sight adjustment which may be easier/better for you than keeping stock...

I think I was repeating what I saw somewhere else on these boards about the sight hoods...

 

[Lou the Jew]

I am in the process of acquiring a dust cover that fits so that I could have a AR type sights installed and a rail welded for optics. I am not sure what sights I will go with for now but they will have to work with the R4 front sight hood as I have received one from John. I am also planning to have the front sight hood lopped of the top as suggested as I find that to be very helpful on other front sights I have used previously. The advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

[RSR]

You can see the Chuck Taylor sight mods in this article: http://www.scribd.com/doc/215884326/FN-Para-Vs-Taylor-Made-Galil-SWAT-Feb-1984

 

[lcastillo]

I am in the process of acquiring a dust cover that fits so that I could have a AR type sights installed and a rail welded for optics. I am not sure what sights I will go with for now but they will have to work with the R4 front sight hood as I have received one from John. I am also planning to have the front sight hood lopped of the top as suggested as I find that to be very helpful on other front sights I have used previously. The advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Hey Lou! before you lop off the top of the R4 sight hood, may I recommend you get a Valmet sight hood. It already has the cut off you are looking for and it will save your R4 sight hood for any future use. The Valmet sight will look way better than any homemade cuts (no disrespect with the last remark, I meant with regards to the final finish) This guy has been looking to sell this Valmet sight hood for awhile http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=404549609 and it appears to be in great condition. Good luck with it! Lou

 

[Lou the Jew]

Castillo, I like those quite a bit but I am not sure I can justify the 50 bucks just for the sight hood. I would have bought it had I not purchased the R4 already. Regardless, I am sure Jeff will be able to cut my R4 Hood nicely. I appreciate all advice and suggestions. Thank you.

 

[RSR]

That is nice, but it looks like you lose the night sight.?

 

[jyuzamas]

I have some R4 front sight post and hoods. I have a lot of items that are not listed on the sight yet, so just email and ask.

24HourTactical.com
John@24hourTactical.com