Galil markings on barrel, or lack of. Actually none!

[Deltaspeed93]

No wrench flats?/ Galil markings on barrel, or lack of. Actually none! NOW with pics!

The builder told me this was a factory IMI galil barrel, however there is nothing on the barrel to identify it and I mean nothing!
I also do not see any wrench flats!
I think I need a GALIL parts kit at some point...

We're some IMI barrels made without some dates or markings?

 

[snipertn]

Deltaspeed93, One of the best people to pose this question to would be Tenngalil. Adipose, Jetskratel, and Riderboy would probbaly know also. I have 2 Galils built by Tenngalil but i'm no expert on bbl markings. I know that some builds require cutting bbl's down thus removing some bbl markings.
Is your bbl chrome lined? If so ir could be a IMI bbl.You may need to take the handguard off and possibily have some markings underneath.

Try contacting one of the above, or take off your handguard and see if there are any marking underneath.
Hope this helps,

snipertn

 

[lcastillo]

Deltaspeed93,

I am gonna say that you do not have a original IMI made barrel. All original IMI barrels that I have seen have the wrench flats on the barrel. Another thing to look for is the factory pressure proof stamp it should be the letter "P" within a circle (although sometimes its just a "P"). I have a barrel just like you described and it is a US made one with a nitride finish. I post some pictures tonight of some examples maybe that will help out determine what barrel you have. Adipose will tell you in a snap if you take some pictures of your barrel.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

I guess we all get screwed in life at some point.

They told me it was a galil parts kit on CNCW receiver.

Now what to do?....

Is it that hard to be honest with people?...

The real slap in the face was the conversation that went like this.

Me "so this is a factory IMI galil barrel?" "oh yeah man 100% galil build and factory IWI barrel, yep!"

That and the loss of my STG-58.

I guess I can just shoot the shit out of whatever barrel they gave me and grab an IMI barrel down the road.

 

[RM308]

I guess we all get screwed in life at some point.

They told me it was a galil parts kit on CNCW receiver.

Now what to do?....

Is it that hard to be honest with people?...

The real slap in the face was the conversation that went like this.

Me "so this is a factory IMI galil barrel?" "oh yeah man 100% galil build and factory IWI barrel, yep!"

That and the loss of my STG-58.

I guess I can just shoot the shit out of whatever barrel they gave me and grab an IMI barrel down the road.

Don't give up hope. Is it chrome lined? I had some CL virgin barrels years ago that had no wrench flats. Jeff just milled the flats on one of them and installed it.

But a "galil parts kit" does not have to mean it's Israeli made......

Whatever it is, shoot it and enjoy.

 

[Mr Folgers]

Don't give up hope. Is it chrome lined? I had some CL virgin barrels years ago that had no wrench flats. Jeff just milled the flats on one of them and installed it.

But a "galil parts kit" does not have to mean it's Israeli made......

Whatever it is, shoot it and enjoy.

Could be a custom-turned barrel.

I'm a bit perplexed how they managed to torque it on the receiver with no flats, since it isn't a press-and-pin receiver.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

Could be a custom-turned barrel.

I'm a bit perplexed how they managed to torque it on the receiver with no flats, since it isn't a press-and-pin receiver.

Yeah, my sig has a press and pin 552 fitted barrel to a 556 receiver done by estes adams. Pretty cool but I'm always worried the thing is going to come apart but a grade 8 bolt should hold.
When I was looking at the galil I was also wondering how they did it with no flats?
I spoke with the shop owner and he seemed genuine about were the barrel came from.
It will be interesting trying to identify.
Are galil barrels pretty easy to come by? I think I want to just go the ar route and get the standard IMI handguards and barrel

 

[lcastillo]

It could be a turned down M-16/AR-15 barrel.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

Oh cool

 

[TOOL_MAN]

Have you even shot that bastard yet. Poor thing. Go shoot it and then start saving money for your next Galil. Jeeeze.
Like your gonna be happy with only one version of the Galil. You should thankful you didn't end up with some orf reject

 

[Deltaspeed93]

Your right Darth! I thought about all the rambling I was doing when in fact it's a nice build and some one went to the effort to make this thing half way decent... I am not a $3500.00 gun guy so I guess I shouldn't be expecting one.

So instead of complaining I'll give a range report after this weekend

 

[lcastillo]

Authentic IMI Galil barrel markings

Deltaspeed93,

As promised here are pictures of the markings that you should find on a factory IMI Galil barrel. Some of the date numerals and lot codes will differ, but in general you will find these towards the chamber end. The barrel twist rate will be found toward the flash hider end. This is the barrel that I have on my FrankenGolaniStein.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

I guess at this point I hope it's just safe to shoot!?! Shit. Jeff hillbilly recommended I have the head space checked first.

 

[lcastillo]

Authentic IMI Galil barrel markings

Here is the "P" I was telling you about. Some will have a circle around the letter.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

Deltaspeed93,

As promised here are pictures of the markings that you should find on a factory IMI Galil barrel. Some of the date numerals and lot codes will differ, but in general you will find these towards the chamber end. The barrel twist rate will be found toward the flash hider end. This is the barrel that I have on my FrankenGolaniStein.

Thanks, too bad that's exactly what I DONT have
But like I said I will just enjoy what I have.

 

[lcastillo]

U.S. made barrel that Blackthorne sells

So here is the U.S. made barrel that looks just like the barrel on your rifle Delta. This is the barrel they sell for $165.00 (at one time) and just like your rifles barrel it has no stamping whats so ever. No flat cuts. Blackthorne advertised the barrel as 1-9 twist. I tested the barrel and sure enough 1-9 twist it is.

 

[lcastillo]

U.S. made barrel that Blackthorne sells

So the barrel has one flaw that was pointed out to me by Tenngalil and that is the notch for the front hand guard retainer was cut and turned the full circumference of the barrel. In Jeff's opinion this creates a weak spot in the barrel by taking off to much metal. It should just be a notch. I could not tell if your barrel has this cut because the HG retainer was covering that area.

 

[lcastillo]

U.S. made barrel that Blackthorne sells

The biggest plus on this barrel is that it is chrome lined! They did a good job chroming the barrel. When I got the barrel it was all white steel so I used gun blue to make the chrome lining visible.

 

[lcastillo]

I guess at this point I hope it's just safe to shoot!?! Shit. Jeff hillbilly recommended I have the head space checked first.

I would follow what Jeff recommends. especially under this instance, since what the seller described the rifle barrel to be is not true puts the build quality into question. Have you talked to him about it or possibly getting your money back? It appears to me that you have a justifiable grievance.

 

[Deltaspeed93]

Couldn't I just get an IMI barrel or Jeff recommended a green mountain or Davidson or something along those lines....
I'm afraid I've lost my STG for life.. Maybe I can buy it back.

Either way I can at least use what I have as a base... All the other parts minus receiver and hand guards are IMI. I did the IMI R4 comparison and the rest seems good.