Does Drilling the hole in the Back of a MAc10 for A Sabre 556 Diminish its Value

[DistalRadius]

Classic case of Shooter versus Collector.

Everybody's gotta decide for themselves which they are.

:2cents

 

[LawBob]

Classic case of Shooter versus Collector.

Everybody's gotta decide for themselves which they are.

:2cents

I’m a collector

My brother passed away with a collection of unshot guns

I no longer collect guns not to shoot.

I suggest everyone enjoy the new leather in their new cars rather than buy seat covers for the next owner to enjoy the unused new leather that you just sold them for a 2% premium.

 

[ccosby]

I think for now it doesn’t hurt the value. I personally wouldn’t drill the hole, because if the things ever become collectible it might hurt them someday, plus there are plenty of 5.56 options coming down the pike for Macs that don’t require a hole to be drilled. That said, if you drill it, it’s a rather simple fix to weld it shut and grind the weld smooth then refinish.

I'd think it might hurt the value a little or at least make it take a little longer to sell. That being said the above covers it. It wouldn't be expensive to fix the gun and repark it.

Hell my m10/45 was a texas gun. Sam rewelded the back and other areas and made it work with standard parts. Safety didn't work right so I had tsc machine fix it as they are local and then refinish the gun. I could always have it blasted and reparked again and no one would know.

 

[Banshee]

Personally i would not drill an irreplaceable transferable machinegun, dealer sample drill it. Ya i know it is a MAC, but there only so many of them and will NEVER be any more.

 

[MACchat]

Who buys a Sabre in 2019-2020? And why? Nostalgia? 40-50% off for an inferior product (shootability, adaptability, aesthetically) doesn’t make sense, or cents.

I have a hole in one of my 11/9s from MedPhys (shoutout MedPhys) or whoever owned it before him that doesn’t bother me in the least. It’s a M-whatever that is full-happy and the hole is covered with a stock. It’s irrelevant.

And unless someone is a caliber junkie, Sir Lage’s IRM makes this whole conversation irrelevant.

Again, for the love of Macs, who is buying a Sabre? OP, be a good friend and steer your buddy to our friends Richard and Jackie. Friends of friends don’t let friends buy Alliance anything.

(And if you wouldn’t drill a transferable MAC, it’s proof you need another.)

 

[IndustrialRescue]

I drilled the hole for my Max11/15

And very much enjoyed watching people get butthurt, and tell me I should have gone IRRM. Nanananananana

It works. It doesn't affect resale. Not that I'll ever sell anyway. And I can slow down the ROF with my 8.5 ounce super heavy buffer, while the IRRM guys are basically stuck just playing with the gas.

That SABRE better be CHEAP though. No parts to fix it. If it's more than a grand, I'd wait for the Lage. The SABRE is stupidly heavy anyway.

 

[9406170]

When you're spending $3000 on an upper what's another $500 diminished value? Unless we're talking about an early Powder Springs M10 which is about to become C&R there isn't much to preserve anyway. Buying a machine gun instead of investing it is already losing money so you might as well drill that hole and cut off the rear sight. The drilled back plate/sight can always be cut off, replaced, welded, and have the gun reparked.

As for the SABRE comments I fully agree: I'd pay $750 max and I'd start lower. Once the MAX-11A1/15 are delivered and the market knows the 10/15 is next I expect scarcity to fall off of a cliff - demand will tank and supply will rise. Example: M11 SABRE, $750 vs M10 SABRE, $1500. Once the 10/15 is on the horizon we're pretty much done here especially considering how much weight the SABRE adds to an already massive M10.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

The Sabre is a squad size weapon not a normal m16
It’s a bench gun. It has its place in a collection. I gladly paid $1600 for it in nos condition a year ago

Parts can be made

You don’t have to pick one or the other. Pick both

 

[m11stuff@hotmail.com]

The MAX-11A1/15 and MAX-10/15 are both at BATF FATD for determination. We submitted them at the same time. When approved, we expect to produce them in parallel, not one before the other.

 

[Kramer]

The MAX-11A1/15 and MAX-10/15 are both at BATF FATD for determination. We submitted them at the same time. When approved, we expect to produce them in parallel, not one before the other.

I definitely want a MAX-10/15.

 

[9406170]

The MAX-11A1/15 and MAX-10/15 are both at BATF FATD for determination. We submitted them at the same time. When approved, we expect to produce them in parallel, not one before the other.

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