Changed back from Lage just to see...

[RoverDave]

I Thought so!!!!!!!!! :roflmao




I'm sure Macaholic will get on here at some point. I don't believe he has a computer at home.

Maybe some of the guys here will take up a collection and buy one for him so he can be online more often. :roflmao

 

[medphys]

Maybe some of the guys here will take up a collection and buy one for him so he can be online more often. :roflmao

or he can share Deadline's

 

[MrM4]

:lol

 

[F-ing Hostile]

Guns scare me!

 

[SSMDIVE]

Maybe some of the guys here will take up a collection and buy one for him so he can be online more often. :roflmao

Honestly, I just gave away two older ones and if he wanted one I would have sent it to him

 

[M1A....]

Maybe some of the guys here will take up a collection and buy one for him so he can be online more often.

or he can share Deadline's

:roflmao :jester :silly You guys are too funny!!!

 

[USSarizona]

If such an animal as a properly running Max-10 or Max-11 existed, It's possible that I would agree with you. However, such a fantasy is just that. A fantasy! Oh you may get one of those contraptions to run about 75% if your lucky, but I have yet to see one of those Frankencontraptions produce anywhere near 100% reliability like a properly configured factory Mac. And that's my point!

I am gonna speak my mind b.. before I leave becasue your people told me I could. I called your office and I was told I could have the mic to speak. And then I was lied too because I came prepaired to speak and instead... you wouldn't let anybody speak, ya handed out, what, 30 cards?

Well I got news for you. K? You... and your... cronies in the government do this kind of stuff all the time. Well... I don't care how damn... I don't care how damn crooked ya are. I'm not a lobbyist with all kind of money to stuff in your pocket so that you can..dreh... cheat the... the peh.. citizens of this country. So I'll leave and you can do whatever the hell ya... please to do. One day God's stand before you and He's gonna judge you and the rest of your damn cronies up on the hill. And then you will get your just desserts. I'm leaving.

 

[MrM4]

I am gonna speak my mind b.. before I leave becasue your people told me I could. I called your office and I was told I could have the mic to speak. And then I was lied too because I came prepaired to speak and instead... you wouldn't let anybody speak, ya handed out, what, 30 cards?

Well I got news for you. K? You... and your... cronies in the government do this kind of stuff all the time. Well... I don't care how damn... I don't care how damn crooked ya are. I'm not a lobbyist with all kind of money to stuff in your pocket so that you can..dreh... cheat the... the peh.. citizens of this country. So I'll leave and you can do whatever the hell ya... please to do. One day God's stand before you and He's gonna judge you and the rest of your damn cronies up on the hill. And then you will get your just desserts. I'm leaving.

what was that all about?

 

[USSarizona]

what was that all about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnP7x0xijRc

 

[FOZ]

what was that all about?

+1:dunno

 

[macaholic]

Well this is thread drift but I disagree with the selector use. For all practical purpose a slow firing subgun can be singled all day long ie. Uzi, Sterling, Max-11, Sten, etc...so you can shoot it as a "Semi Auto in a sense." Why not let the guy's shooting Mini Uzi's, M11/9's etc...have a more level playing field by the use of the selector switch? It is part of the Subgun design so why not be able to use it? I never thought that the "no use of the selector switch" was a good idea....I think getting rid of that train of thought would make better shooters and might also draw some guy's into shooting matches that otherwise would not.

This is the very message that I've been trying to get across for quite some time now, regarding the use of the selector, in subgun competition. It pleases me to see that my efforts have not been completely in vain. Thank you very much THM7.

 

[macaholic]

The most interesting thing about the scores is that macaholic himself seems to have given up on the M11. Looks like all his most recent scores are with the S&W76. hmmm....

If you go back and read some of my recent post's, you will see why I've been exclusively shooting the 76. It has to do with the availability and price of ammo. Also, I preferr certain brands of ammo for each individual gun such as; Remington green box for the Mac and WWB for the Smith. Simply put, I can't afford to buy two and three different brands of ammo at the going prices for each gun per subgun match, nor are these brands available on a consistant basis at this time. Just for the record, If you look at the score sheets for the past two matches, you will notice I've been running my Uzi. If I do happen to run a Mac at any given match, it's usualy in the blind shoot or old town stage, but never do I run the Mac throughout the whole match. It's also not uncommon for the score keeper to simply not record the Mac used on a particular stage, and I have mentioned this in the past as well.

 

[macaholic]

So how many singles and doubles did you pull? I'll bet if you weren't too lazy to practice and acquire the skills to run the historically significant Daniel's M11/9 in it's OEM condition you'd be pulling singles. Maybe one day you'll see the light and dump that mechanical contraption that's a poor substitute for mastering the SWD M11/9 PDW. :roflmao

Seriously, how many singles and doubles were you able to pull with the OEM M11/9? I know I can't get more than a three round burst with WWB using the all original upper... not ever! I found the ROF for my factory gun... I PACT timed it at 1484 RPM!

Now using weak UMC ammo and a worn out recoil spring, I may be able to do a bit better. :jerkoff
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It's not the rate of fire, the recoil spring or the brand of ammo that determins whether the operator can pull consistant doubles with the Daniels 9mm. I can pull consistant doubles and ocasional singles with any and all brands of ammo in every Mac I own. I prefer the Remington green box and UMC in the model-11 for the smoothness of operation, not because they make it any easier to pull low number burst counts. If you cannot pull consistant doubles in your Mac at this point in your personal history of shooting subguns, your either too lazy, drastically uncordinated or just plain dishonest.

 

[macaholic]

Well as Vegas said you can slow the ROF down quite a bit with ammo selection and recoil spring tension. So consistant singles with a OEM M11/9 is certainly doable.

There is no mechanical secret to pulling consistant doubles with any Mac other than practice. Furthermore, I do not recomend trying this weak recoil spring trick because it can be very dangerous, or at least do possible damage to the lower reciever. If you find that you have a weak recoil spring, my advice is to replace it immediately with a new factory recoil spring.

 

[medphys]

It's not the rate of fire, the recoil spring or the brand of ammo that determins whether the operator can pull consistant doubles with the Daniels 9mm.

Uhhh, yes it does. Lighter ammo decreases the rate of fire which makes it easyer to pull singles/doubles. Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6RFN9yWjFI

I can pull consistant doubles and occasional singles with any and all brands of ammo in every Mac I own. I prefer the Remington green box and UMC in the model-11 because of the smoothness of these particular brands, not because they make it any easier to pull low number burst counts.

...because the rate of fire is lower!

Mac- please don't take this as trying to start/continue an argument with you since I don't even know you. Plus, I respect your knowledge and passion for the Mac style firearms. I just don't buy the whole 'don't modify your gun' thought. It may be a classic, but like MrM4 said, it's a turd. I admit that I love my turd, but it's my turd and I'll do with it what I please. If I want to drill a hole or two in it or put an aftermarket upper on it, I will. Just don't go on and on about how practice and finger control can get you pulling singles on a stock M11; not with standard pressure ammo anyway. Everyone knows that Rem UMC is underpowered and will slow the ROF of your gun.
eace

 

[macaholic]

Mac- please don't take this as trying to start/continue an argument with you since I don't even know you. Plus, I respect your knowledge and passion for the Mac style firearms. I just don't buy the whole 'don't modify your gun' thought. It may be a classic, but like MrM4 said, it's a turd. I admit that I love my turd, but it's my turd and I'll do with it what I please. If I want to drill a hole or two in it or put an aftermarket upper on it, I will. Just don't go on and on about how practice and finger control can get you pulling singles on a stock M11; not with standard pressure ammo anyway. Everyone knows that Rem UMC is underpowered and will slow the ROF of your gun.
eace

I also run Reminton green box and UMC in my Uzi and Colt 9mm SMG, and have for years. I would like to mention that not only all of my Mac's are factory correct, but every other subgun I own is as well. If you are not running a factory Mac, and you are experiencing reliability issues, it's most likely because you are operating a Mac that has been mechanicaly monkeyed outside the original specifications and is at best, a boarderline contraption. As far as what brand of ammo will make it easier to pull doubles, I can pull consistant doubles in all of my Mac's with any brand of ammo I choose. It sounds to me like you've been given some bad advice, and probably didn't know any better at the time it was given. Be carefull, you will encounter alot of that around here around here.

 

[medphys]

I also run the Reminton green box and UMC in my Uzi and Colt 9mm SMG, and have for years. I would like to mention that not only are my Mac's factory correct, but every other subgun I own is as well. If you are not running a factory Mac, and you are experiencing reliability issues, it's because you are operating a Mac that has been monkeyed outside the original specifications and is at best, a boarderline contraption. As far as what brand of ammo will make it easier to pull doubles, I can pull consistant doubles in any of my Mac's, with any brand of ammo I choose, standing on my head, going down a flight of stairs in a wheel chair all day long. My advice to you is be carefull of the information you get on Mac's in general, because most, if not all of it, is based on nothing more than myth and non factual Bu#!Shit.

Cool.

For the record, I haven't had any problems with my M11 since I replaced the stock barrel with a custom one. The crappy stock one was misaligned with the bolt and the rounds kept getting stuck in the chamber preventing extraction. It's good-to-go now, nice and s-m-o-o-t-h.

 

[hotbrass]

FWIW, the original MAC "is at best, a boarderline contraption."

If new machine guns were legal, and didnt require a small contribution to the tax collector, my Mac would be the leading edge of a small boat anchor.

But thanks to all the innovative folks out there that can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, it is a damn cheap way to own a MG.

 

[AZ Doug]

FWIW, the original MAC "is at best, a boarderline contraption."

If new machine guns were legal, and didnt require a small contribution to the tax collector, my Mac would be the leading edge of a small boat anchor.

But thanks to all the innovative folks out there that can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, it is a damn cheap way to own a MG.

+1

 

[Icer]

:waving
Just had to drop in and post in another classic Macaholic thread...........some things never change.
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