CF-W Bolt

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anyone have any idea what the going rate is for the early unmarked bolts and where one could be found or sold. thinking about selling mine. thanks.
 

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I'll sell you mine for 3 grand. But seriously, get on the list, somebody is making another run of them.
 

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I'll sell you mine for 3 grand. But seriously, get on the list, somebody is making another run of them.
To be straight forward though, they're not the same. The bolt length is shorter, so there's less weight. It brings the 1200 rpm down to 8-900 on an m11/9. The original cfw bolt slowed it down further.
 

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To be straight forward though, they're not the same. The bolt length is shorter, so there's less weight. It brings the 1200 rpm down to 8-900 on an m11/9. The original cfw bolt slowed it down further.
To add to this - IRRC, the first type of non-A marked tungsten alloy bolt was sized for and patterned after the steel M11/9 bolt. As such, it weighs about 32 oz.; and has a separate firing pin and retainer as a closed bolt application had been anticipated. The first group of about 110 weren't engraved and the final batch of 200 were engraved.

The "A" engraved bolt is patterned after a steel M-11/380 bolt; and weighs about 25 oz. and has a fixed firing pin. IIRC, there've been four batches of 50 each so far, with another batch of unpublished number apparently imminent.

MHO, YMMV, etc. Be well.
 

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Remember that the A bolt is shorter and has a longer stroke in an M11/9. The longer stroke makes up for the lighter weight of the bolt. I have one of the unmarked full size M11/9 CF-W bolts. The only disadvantage of the new A bolts is the shorter bolt leaves a gap in the ejection port between the edge of the port and the bolt. This could make dirt get into the gun easier. Not a big deal unless you are using the gun in combat.
 

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I have one of the original steel-tungsten "hybrid" bolts, plus a first batch Gen 2 bolt (full length, all tungsten), and a first-batch "A" bolt, each in a different M11. Looking back, the original was $450 at the time, and then the Gen 2 was $750. I can't remember what I paid for the "A" bolt when they first came out... maybe $1200?. There's an old review with photos and video HERE.
 

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WOW!!! Alot of this stuff is getting into the price range of "out of my range" or "cost more then the gun and stamp"

Guess when your paying 12 to 15k for a m10/11 whats a 3k bolt??
 

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WOW!!! Alot of this stuff is getting into the price range of "out of my range" or "cost more then the gun and stamp"

Guess when your paying 12 to 15k for a m10/11 whats a 3k bolt??
I said $2400, slight difference from $3k, with inflation that‘s different than the year ‘09— price aside, if you haven’t tried a tungsten bolt yet it’s understandable you’re missing the value.

The heavy bolt doesn’t hit the back of the receiver, the recoil impulse is the pistol version of an ultimax… it’s nice. Tungsten bolts are worth every cent. 🇺🇸
 

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Why 09? Is there a belief I joined the same year I got into NFA? Cause its not.

So are you the guy that paid 2400 for the bolt?
 

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Why 09? Is there a belief I joined the same year I got into NFA? Cause its not.

So are you the guy that paid 2400 for the bolt?
I sold that bolt.

Yes I guessed ‘09. My join date isn't my nfa born date either. Sorry to assume.

That said, you should try a tungsten bolt, it’s a gem.
 

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Okay, you sold yours, probably for a good profit then.

I have other things that can get to between 500 to 800 rpm adjustable. So its not something I am interested at this point. But I am sure it will change again, I go back and forth. fast to slow, slow back to fast.

At this moment I am content running the lage m10/31 Gen2 with the rate increase buffers.
 

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Wow! I have one of these. Love it! Paid Vegas SMG $750 for it, as I recall. I run it in a Gray Ghost or Lage Mk-2SK upper. I put one of the ILWT stainless steel firing pins in it.
jack, the rear of that upper was a slightly snug fit in the back of the receiver so i took some 300 wet/dry to clearance it a little bit. i used a sharpie to keep track of it how much i was removing.
 

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