The came with (1) 25 round? magazine. I can’t remember if it is 25 or 30 rounds. I also have (6) additional magazines, several still in the wrapper. Only two were inserted in the gun and shot. Thoughts on value for all (7) mags and the conversion? Thanks in advance.
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Can anyone give me a fair, for both parties, market value on a Ceiner M16 .22lr. conversion kit?
- Thread starter Tackelbarry
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Sir, Brand new, for his retail site is 199 (kit and 1 mag) 3 mags are 109 x 2 = 218, so so retail is $417, now as to fair value...not sure. I might be interested in the 6 extra 30 rounders... Seems like now everyone is into the CMMG kits nickel boron, etc and their or Black Dog Machine (BDM) magazines that look like full size AR15 magazines.
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The only parts left on the Ciener website are mags. Everything else is o/s. On the negative side, the mag design and the conversion design are both obsolete. 25 round mags for the AR-15/M16 (no LRBHO trip) can be had for $10 or less (Arms Unlimited). Packages with complete Colt branded conversion kits and three, 25 round mags (no LRBHO trip) can be had for ~$180 - they were as low as $140 last November. There might be some collector value in old Atchisson/Ciener products, but as there were a significant number of the kits and mags sold by Atchisson and Ciener, there is no real scarcity.
On the positive side the conversion and mags are made from carbon steel, not stainless steel and polymer as is now common, so if someone wanted to drill, grind, or weld them, the tasks would likely be simplified. In particular, drilling the bolt to put in tungsten weights or welding steel weights to the back of the bolt would probably be easier. Conversely, milling the bolt to make it lighter is also probably easier than for current stainless steel parts.
Possibly, the mags and mag springs could be cut down and reconfigured to a 'flush fit' format (7 or maybe 8 round capacity). There are some owners of "Blaster" .22 AR-15 pistols who desire such a magazine (that does not extend below/outside of the receiver). Modifying current polymer mags to a flush fit format would probably be more challenging for most individuals, and I doubt that the market for flush fit mags is large enough for most commercial mag manufacturers to pursue.
Best of luck.
MHO, YMMV, etc.
On the positive side the conversion and mags are made from carbon steel, not stainless steel and polymer as is now common, so if someone wanted to drill, grind, or weld them, the tasks would likely be simplified. In particular, drilling the bolt to put in tungsten weights or welding steel weights to the back of the bolt would probably be easier. Conversely, milling the bolt to make it lighter is also probably easier than for current stainless steel parts.
Possibly, the mags and mag springs could be cut down and reconfigured to a 'flush fit' format (7 or maybe 8 round capacity). There are some owners of "Blaster" .22 AR-15 pistols who desire such a magazine (that does not extend below/outside of the receiver). Modifying current polymer mags to a flush fit format would probably be more challenging for most individuals, and I doubt that the market for flush fit mags is large enough for most commercial mag manufacturers to pursue.
Best of luck.
MHO, YMMV, etc.
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