Another Vector Question (Mini)

[Selva]

I have located a Reg. FA Bolt that I can get at a decent price for my IMI Mini SA. Does anyone know if Vector will machine the trunnion for the bolt "feet", install a bushing in the receiver so that a FA grip assy. can be used and re-finished the weapon.

Thanks for all info.

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[stymie]

Selva... if the trunion is relieved for the two bolt feet, you have just created another machinegun... as a conventional smg mini-bolt will drop right in. Are you sure that what you're looking at is a *registered* mini-bolt... as those two ESSENTIAL feet allow the weapon to impart more momentum to overcome the inertia that is required to function reliably. A registered bolt will not have those feet & should be avoided.

 

[KarlPMann]

From what I understand of Vector now, they can and will do pretty much ANY UZI work. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Karl.

 

[stymie]

Any Title 2 manufacturer could relieve the trunion for the two *feet*... however, the receiver would become a Post '86 L.E./gov ONLY NFA machinegun & would not be transferrable back to the original owner!

 

[Mad Mike]

Hi...from what I understand we don't alter receivers to fit Registered Bolts. As far as the pistol grip goes you can drill the pin hole on the FA pistol grip to 9mm with a letter T drill bit, if and only if the bolt you are using is truly a registered bolt. To do so otherwise would put you in violation. Also the pistol grip should be removed if you take the registered bolt out of the weapon.

Mike

 

[KarlPMann]

Selva, from what I know of reg'd. bolts, the bolt was modified in such a way that it would fit an SA receiver and still allow FA fire. That's why it had to be reg'd. In other words, you don't/shouldn't need to modify the trunion. As for wanting a sleeve for the lower, like Mad Mike said, you can just drill the lower to work, which is what most people do. If you really must have the sleeve instead, any machine shop can make you a sleeve with a 9mm OD and 8mm ID. And of course they can re-finish the gun. Karl.

 

[Selva]

Thanks for the help folks. I have not seen the bolt. The info I received was from a dealer who has the bolt. He says it has feet and is IMI Spec. He says it was registered by a small company from GA. and has been owned by two different owners. Both owners had no trouble with transfers????????????????
Is there some way to check to see if this bolt is legit. The dealer is well known to the industry and has an excellant track record.

Ron

 

[KarlPMann]

If the bolt is "registered". You will need to transfer it via an ATF form. From dealer to you will be a form 4. If it's not legitimate, ATF wont approve it. Just that simple. Karl.

 

[stymie]

Selva... have the current owner-dealer/transferrer... mail/FAX a copy of the Form that the bolt is registered on to you. Follow up by calling NFA Branch (202) 927-8330 & the fellow who answers the phone can assist. You will need to provide his name/business name, your name as the "transferee" & the serial # of the bolt. You need to obtain all the facts.

 

[stymie]

One more thought! I assume that *this* bolt has changed hands & has NEVER been installed in an unmodified receiver. If it is an *unmodified* IMI bolt... although perhaps registered & still has the *feet*... it could be a replacement bolt that has yet to be converted due to destruction or damage to the *original* bolt. It was a common practice to electro-pencil mfr data on pre-'86 bolts. In any event... I would stay clear of this one. Caveat Emptor!
The problem with converted mini-bolts, aside from their lack of potential/kinetic energy, is that they force you to insert the mag 1st, cock the weapon, pull the charging handle back a bit further & then ease the bolt to a position 1/4" into the back of the magazine... pushing the cartridge slightly forward. If this procedure is not adhered to... the bolt will skip OVER the round & it will obviously NOT fire. The mag capacity must also be reduced as the magazine spring tension will create too much drag & you will experience light primer strikes.
IMHO.... registered bolts are reliable in the fullsize.... but are highly problematic in the mini. They are also ridiculously expensive when compared to a registered receiver gun.
Just curious... who's the dealer?

 

[Selva]

Thanks for the info folks. I think I will pass on this "deal". There will be other "deals" in the future that won't have as many potential problems.

Thanks again !!!

Ron



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