Am I stupid for considering this?

[Jtm35a2]

I am a new mac 10/45 owner. The lage forward mag fed uppers are what drew me in. I have a max 10/31 upper and am #208 for the 11/15 upper. I was thinking about cutting off the grip, plugging the hole and welding a lug to the block off plate to accept ar15 grips. I am hoping that a 45 upper that feeds from the front is on the horizon. Crazy? Stupid?

 

[stevo]

Yes, stupid…you’re welcome.

 

[Davises]

We’ll I vote not stupid- my suggestion - use an AK grip nut and an AK grip….

 

[Jtm35a2]

Thanks for the replies. I have zero interest in grip fed smgs. I only bought the mac because of Mr.Lage’s wonderful creations.

 

[boomer535]

Your gun, do what you want. I just got a Lage Max 10/45 and I agree with you about his uppers.

 

[gt3499a]

sure would be more comfortable that way.

 

[Jtm35a2]

I would love to figure out some sort of modular grip setup, but haven’t seen any successful designs.

 

[Davises]

I would be very interested in that- in my mind there would be little rails welded to each side of the magazine opening- grips would slide on from the rear of the receiver and maybe there would be a roll pin that holds it in place that would go up through the bottom of the receiver to hold it in place

 

[mtlcafan79]

The MAX-11/15 IRM uppers require the factory magwell to still be in place to secure the recoil spring for disassembly. A factory mag pushes up on a latch and holds everything together so you can remove the upper without sending the recoil spring into orbit. I would assume the 10/15 and 11a1/15 work the same if you intend on going IRM.

 

[pjm204]

Yes, this seems like a horrible idea.

 

[Davises]

Yes, this seems like a horrible idea.

A horrible idea for sure if the IRM requires a factory mag for disassembly…IMHO an awesome idea if you just want to shoot a 9mm max 31, 31a, or 31k…a modular grip setup that allowed the factory grip and an ar or ak grip would be splendid indeed though for sure (in my mind)

 

[Grant435]

Besides for the 10/15 irm compatibility I think it’s a great idea if done well. Think about what would be left of a Mac variant gun, basically just side plates with a serial number. New uppers, grip, trigger, stocks, you basically have a new modern production machine gun. I’m surprised that these guns don’t sky rocket in value. So much versatility and options.

 

[Mackjack]

Your not the first one to think this. And with how versatile and modular these guns have become I’m sure some enterprising individual some day will come up with some detachable grip mod… just as the sten mag well used to be cool. And people will send them off to practical solutions to do or undo whatever was done to suit their needs.

 

[Gaujo]

It's a good idea in principal, but you're probably devaluing the gun 15%. It's like a flame paint job or lowering springs. If you like it fine but you'll not only not get your money out of it, you'll lower the things value.

 

[ferndog1]

It's a good idea in principal, but you're probably devaluing the gun 15%. It's like a flame paint job or lowering springs. If you like it fine but you'll not only not get your money out of it, you'll lower the things value.

I agree with Gaujo, years ago when machine guns were cheap*, People thought little about altering, welding and/or drilling holes in the receivers to mount all kinds of things. As a dealer, I can tell you altered receivers are a hard sell. It's kind of like adding fender flares to a 1963 Corvette split-window couple. The reason I used the Corvette as an example, is I actually knew a guy who flared the fenders on his '63 Corvette to put wider tires on it, he said he didn't care what other people thought; quote "its MY car and I'll do what I want to it." To each his own.

*Cheap? Yes for you younger guys, prior to 1986 Class 3 dealer C2 mfg. Charlie Erb sold Stens and MACs for $150.00, Reising $165.00 Colt M16s $500.00

 

[rybread]

If it’s what you want it’s a great idea. I was considering having Sam put an MG-34 grip on my 11/9 for use with uppers that have magwells- but I have several 11/9s so that’s not a big deal to me. Do consider the loss of functionality and re sale value - but otherwise you do you, what others think isn’t worth a Squirt of piss.

 

[Jtm35a2]

I think I will wait until 11/15 upper #208 is delivered so I can study the irm system

 

[Offmarksman]

There are some folks on here that are very skilled in gunsmithing, machining, and welding. There are others who like to think they are “experts.” Over time, you will be able to figure it out. The modular grip has been discussed before, and I’m sure it can be done (especially if you don’t mind “permanently” altering the lower). I put “permanently” in quotes as these guns are sheet metal, and unless you completely butcher it, you can always weld the old magwell/grip back on and re-parkerize it. Welcome to the forum! I (and many others) look forward to your participation!

 

[Jtm35a2]

Thank you sir!

 

[A&S Conversions]

Is a modular grip/magwell going to happen? IMHO as prices continue to climb, it is bound to happen. It is my understanding that the channel (the two sides, bottom, and boxed end) is the registered part. As more options come to market, especially those with a separate magwell, there is bound to be more interest in a modular grip/magwell. Of course such a system should be well engineered. A well engineered system would not be cheap. But as market values continue to rise, such a system would not be as big a percentage of market value.

Scott