922 compliance parts

[vantrepes]

I have hit my limit with the butt hole stock, and I want to go to either a fixed folding stock and a normal pistol grip, or a normal wooden stock and a pistol grip.
Now, I know you can use some magazine parts to make the gun 922 legal, but I'd really like to avoid doing that, and keep all the US made parts on the gun it's self. I'd also like to do it as cheap as I can, so....

Here are the parts I have been able to find with the prices, and which I am pretty much set on getting:
operating rod 12
stock 30
forearms, and grips: $30
I figure I need the stock and grips anyway, so make them part of the conversion.
But, I need two more parts......
firing pin 60
barrel 80-150
The firing pin assembly, and barrel are the only other two parts I have been able to find, but I'd like to be able to do it cheaper than the $140-$210 they will cost me.

These I have not been able to find, at least not US made:
sear
trigger
disconnecter
Any one have a lead on the above parts, US made? I figure a trigger, or disconnecter is going to be a lot cheaper than a barrel, so I'd like to fine those if I could.

Barring a normal supplier, would it be possible to have them made for me by a private machine shop? How could they document the parts they made?

 

[Paul556]

Just parsing words here, but you might want to call them compliance part, not conversion parts. Typically conversion parts refer to those used to convert a gun to shoot full auto, and it is clear that you simply want to change the furniture legally.

 

[JPNY79]

Just out of curiosity, how many parts do you need to make it compliant?

Future project info.

 

[vantrepes]

Just parsing words here, but you might want to call them compliance part, not conversion parts. Typically conversion parts refer to those used to convert a gun to shoot full auto, and it is clear that you simply want to change the furniture legally.

Very good point. I was thinking conversion in terms of converting it from a thumb hole to a non-thumb hole stock, but I can see that that's more commonly the term for semi to full auto conversion....
I'll edit it now. Thank you very much.:abused

JPNY, you need to replace 5 parts to make it a "US gun" under 922.
Here is where I got my start on the whole thing: http://files.uzitalk.com/reference/pages/norincoconvert.htm

Edit: Great, the edit post button is gone from the original post...... I'll keep looking then maybe repost this with a more accurate title. Maybe, just maybe, a mod would be nice enough to fix it for me? Hint, hint
Or I can send one a PM, and hope for the best, right?

 

[APplaymaker]

So if you put the folding stock on it has to be welded open ?

 

[vantrepes]

So if you put the folding stock on it has to be welded open ?

In NY, yes, because we have to abide by the NY AWB, which is pretty much the same as the 94 Federal ban, but without the sunset clause

If you live in a different state, the Federal Ban is gone, so they say you can have an evil folding stock, but your state, like NY, may say different. Best bet, check your local laws before you change anything.

p.s. Thank you to the mod who changed the title.

 

[Paul556]

You might be able to make a disconnector with some hand tools and a lot of patience. Back when I did mine I had some USA brand mags that sucked bad, but I was able to use the followers and floor plates in IMI mags to help me get up to the parts count. The USA mags are all but gone now with cheap IMI mags all over the place. I might have a couple 50 rounders left that I could part out if you get desperate. I don't have the Norinco anymore, so I don't care about US parts. I also made my own wood butt stock and it turned out pretty good, but didn't look anything like an original butt stock. If you make some part yourself it might be a good idea to engrave USA or just US on them to make it an easier sell if you are ever challenged. Good luck.

 

[tonelar]

according to 922r.com you only need 4 US Made parts... to be compliant with your Norinco.
forearm and handgrip sections count for 2, operating rod and (US made)stock bring your total to 4
if you want to use an israeli stock, get the firing pin for $60.

Done

 

[APplaymaker]

Your sure its only four? I already have three for some reason i thought i needed six that would be great if id only need one more part

 

[vantrepes]

To summarize this letter, ATF states there are 14 imported parts on the Norinco Model 320/UZI BUT, it is important to remember
that ATF states there is no pistol grip found on the Norinco UZI rifle; This is why 5 parts must be added when installing a separate pistol grip and fixed stock.

From the article I linked to. Here's the letter he's refering to.

To bring the imported parts count to to the legal limit of 9 (there are a total of 14 parts listed by the ATF), you have to replace at least 5 of the listed parts with American made parts.

 

[Jager]

The pistol grip panels don't count toward compliance because the Norinco did not have them as imported. With these you are adding to the parts, not replacing them.

 

[APplaymaker]

Alright so i need 5 then, i see you guys talking about using mags, how many parts do they count as? As of right now i have the pistol/forearm grips and a GI folding stock so if i got a firing pin assembly and operating rod i should be good right?

 

[vantrepes]

Alright so i need 5 then, i see you guys talking about using mags, how many parts do they count as? As of right now i have the pistol/forearm grips and a GI folding stock so if i got a firing pin assembly and operating rod i should be good right?

The ATF lists the magazine body, floor plate, and follower as compliance parts, so if you use ONLY use US made magazines, it would be legal, but if you happen to slap a magazine that is not US made in there, it's an illegally converted "assault weapon".
That's why I am trying to avoid using any magazine parts, I have a lot of mags, and I want all the compliance parts on the gun it's self, so I don't have to worry about the ATF claiming I might make an illegally imported weapon based on which magazine I happen to have in it.
aranoid about an ATF :nutkick

 

[APplaymaker]

True, i just dont want to get a new barrel it kinda scares me to cut the welds i have the right tools but im to shaky for it, so i guess im gonna have to find an operating rod and firing pin assembly. I got the GI folding stock from a friend here on the forum so i have no paper work saying its american made anyone know how i would prove its legal if that time ever came?

 

[vantrepes]

Once it's 922 compliant, you don't have to keep the barrel nut welds anyway. That's one of the reasons I want to make it compliant, so it's easier to clean.
As for the GI stock, I'd be very worried if it didn't have a "Made In USA" stamp on it somewhere. You want to be able to prove you have US made parts, not say "I think it's US made, the guy who sold it to me said it was anyway"

 

[Jager]

You really need the welds cut on the barrel nut. When I removed mine there was crud stuck down in there I wasn't getting out when cleaning. I could not reach enough of the weapon to clean it properly. And it just is not field stripped without removing the barrel.